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Re: Football (real)

Postby Trevor33 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:05 pm

Today was a good day for sport... Linfield my most hated of all clubs were playing at home to the bottom club ards, Linfield are top of the league and apart from last season when they were shit win the league most season.

Tonight they so 3-1 up after 40 mins... I cry. Poor Ards. Final whistle blows with the score 3-3 :D

They're still going to win the league and Ards are still going to finish last but who cares.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:16 pm

trevor33 wrote:Today was a good day for sport... Linfield my most hated of all clubs were playing at home to the bottom club ards, Linfield are top of the league and apart from last season when they were shit win the league most season.

Tonight they so 3-1 up after 40 mins... I cry. Poor Ards. Final whistle blows with the score 3-3 :D

They're still going to win the league and Ards are still going to finish last but who cares.


Is that some northern irish championship or something? I guess they aren t even pros?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Trevor33 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:36 pm

Ards aren't but most of the Linfield first team are pros. And yes it's the N. Irish league. Haven't been to a game in over a year, talk about boring. Love making fun of linfield fans but they're the sort that would kick your teeth in.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nagerous on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:26 pm

trevor33 wrote:Today was a good day for sport... Linfield my most hated of all clubs were playing at home to the bottom club ards, Linfield are top of the league and apart from last season when they were shit win the league most season.

Tonight they so 3-1 up after 40 mins... I cry. Poor Ards. Final whistle blows with the score 3-3 :D

They're still going to win the league and Ards are still going to finish last but who cares.


England beat Aussie in the cricket too for the first time in bloomin' ages
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:43 pm

Poor Falcao, I think the press is not giving enough attention to the issue, and this injury clearly wipes all illusion of Colombia for something good.


So, no Ibrahimovic, no Falcao, no Bale, what other good players won't be in the WC?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:49 pm

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:13 pm

nietzsche wrote:Poor Falcao, I think the press is not giving enough attention to the issue, and this injury clearly wipes all illusion of Colombia for something good.


So, no Ibrahimovic, no Falcao, no Bale, what other good players won't be in the WC?


it's not over for falcao. with a lot of luck, he can be there just on time. I really hope it works for him, I like the cafeteros. Really unfair...
It was in the french cup against some amateurs. Ludovic Giuly is now playing for that team (he started playing football there so he wanted to have a little fun in this 5th division club before retirering completely, and they did extremely well in cup going till the last 32). Basically I heard the guy who did the injury o the radio... he really felt like shit, really an unlucky tackle that ended up in a bad injury. The guy who did this is receiving a lot of death threats and stuff like that... It's really unfortunate.
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trevor; what is worse, the welsh or the northern irish championship? lol
here's another one: what happens in a ireland vs northern ireland football game? are half of northern irish supporting ireland? this is very confusing for me!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:16 pm

Apparently we just rejected a £3mil bid from West Ham for McCormack, but they will make another bid. If we were a Premiership team he'd go for £10mil. I hope he sticks around to the end of the season and then, if we don't at least get to thw play-of finals, I would accept him leaving.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Trevor33 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:18 pm

nietzsche wrote:Poor Falcao, I think the press is not giving enough attention to the issue, and this injury clearly wipes all illusion of Colombia for something good.


So, no Ibrahimovic, no Falcao, no Bale, what other good players won't be in the WC?


I agree :'(

Was lucky enough to see him playing live in Peru, one of the best around at the moment. Will be hugely missed for Colombia... there goes my outside bet.

And no BALE? LOL we'll ever see him at a WC. Like Giggs and Best, not all top players are lucky enough to be born in a country that has other good players.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:34 pm

again: he is not out for sure. he'll get operated this week, give it at least 2-3 month to put the leg on the ground and from then on you can be sure he'll do everything to get back in shape. i'd bet that he will be at the world cup, not at 100%, but he will be there
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Trevor33 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:47 pm

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trevor; what is worse, the welsh or the northern irish championship? lol
here's another one: what happens in a ireland vs northern ireland football game? are half of northern irish supporting ireland? this is very confusing for me!


Yes I'd say around half who care would want Ireland to win, maybe a little less. Myself included... as long as they keep playing the English national anthem before a game I'll want them to lose every single one of them.

Actually I'd much rather see a united Ireland football team, just like in rugby, cricket and unofficially hockey. Ireland are good at beating the little teams while N. Ireland can't beat Luxemburg but they can beat Russia and draw with Portugal twice. They've also beaten England and Spain in semi recent years. Ireland haven't beaten any top side since Portugal and Holland to reach the 2002 world cup.

For sure they would qualify for more major tournaments... that is after the civil war of course :lol:

And I'd say (without ever g=having watched the Welsh league) that they're about the same, both do just as bad in Europe. Irish league has had it's moment but I don;t think a Welsh or N. Irish side has been past the second qualifying round in the CL.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:07 pm

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trevor; what is worse, the welsh or the northern irish championship? lol
here's another one: what happens in a ireland vs northern ireland football game? are half of northern irish supporting ireland? this is very confusing for me!


Yes I'd say around half who care would want Ireland to win, maybe a little less. Myself included... as long as they keep playing the English national anthem before a game I'll want them to lose every single one of them.

Actually I'd much rather see a united Ireland football team, just like in rugby, cricket and unofficially hockey. Ireland are good at beating the little teams while N. Ireland can't beat Luxemburg but they can beat Russia and draw with Portugal twice. They've also beaten England and Spain in semi recent years. Ireland haven't beaten any top side since Portugal and Holland to reach the 2002 world cup.

For sure they would qualify for more major tournaments... that is after the civil war of course :lol:

And I'd say (without ever g=having watched the Welsh league) that they're about the same, both do just as bad in Europe. Irish league has had it's moment but I don;t think a Welsh or N. Irish side has been past the second qualifying round in the CL.


they should at least make a n irish+ irish football league... both are too crappy to not even think of it. and a welsh league... with cardiff and swansea in premier league? how stupid does that look?
but yeah... I've always wondered how come irish teams are so ridiculously bad? I seriously can't name you a single club from ireland. I know more clubs from albania or belarus or moldova... And Irish people love football right? and their national team is decent.. so what is wrong with your clubs??
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Trevor33 on Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:33 pm

It's been talked about before, they tried having a cup between the two league, think they still run it but it never really took off. Winter league in the north (don't ask me why) and summer league in the south so they could never agree when to hold it.

We have decent players. both nations but they don't come through the Irish clubs, they go to England or Scotland as teenagers and try to play there. All comes down to money, the Irish leagues don't any to invest in training facilities for youth development and the grounds they play at here are pretty crap as well.

Don't remember Shelbourne? They reached the last qualifying round of the CL and drew 0-0 with Deportivo... lost 4-0 on agg but still.

There is one N. Irish team playing in the Irish league... Derry City, not sure when they moved over but as the biggest Catholic side in the north it's not surprising.

Irish football will never progress... The Republic will continue to qualify for the odd tournament and The North will not. Both leagues will continue to suck and have no money. That's why we all look to England for a team to support. Although I watched more Italian football growing up and was a big Juve fan.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:02 pm

Well that s a shame, when you have more people supporting teams in a neighbour country than in your own..

So can you make a little comparative history between rugby and football... Do you know why one went extremely well, with an "island" team while the other has 2 teams?

Well of course i don t remember qualifying rounds of the champions league from many years ago, at least if it doesn t involve one of my teams or a french team. But yeah, derry city and shelbourne do ring a bell.

It wouldn t be too hard for the irish federation to have some national training facilities.. With less than 5 millions or so.. I don t know, why not even have a dublin fc or whatever in the epl... And create a BIPL (british isles premier league) merging that pointless scottish league...
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Re: Football (real)

Postby JoshyBoy on Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:41 am

Arsenal 4-0 Coventry City :D

A brace from Podolski and late strikes from Giroud and Cazorla =D>

Fantastic to see Wenger did not take this fixture lightly. He sent the lads out to do a job, no fucking about. And that's exactly what we did.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:19 am

JoshyBoy wrote:Arsenal 4-0 Coventry City :D

A brace from Podolski and late strikes from Giroud and Cazorla =D>

Fantastic to see Wenger did not take this fixture lightly. He sent the lads out to do a job, no fucking about. And that's exactly what we did.


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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:48 am

betiko wrote:Well that s a shame, when you have more people supporting teams in a neighbour country than in your own..

So can you make a little comparative history between rugby and football... Do you know why one went extremely well, with an "island" team while the other has 2 teams?

Well of course i don t remember qualifying rounds of the champions league from many years ago, at least if it doesn t involve one of my teams or a french team. But yeah, derry city and shelbourne do ring a bell.

It wouldn t be too hard for the irish federation to have some national training facilities.. With less than 5 millions or so.. I don t know, why not even have a dublin fc or whatever in the epl... And create a BIPL (british isles premier league) merging that pointless scottish league...


Far harder than any otherwise sensible person might think I'm sorry to say for very complicated historical,religious/political reasons.Many Irish people do not regard themselves as British especially in the Republic.Have you ever wondered why the Rugby Union touring team is called the British and Irish Lions?And there is a strong Scottish Nationalist movement pushing for independence as well..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:14 am

well, being part of the british isles is a geographic reality, like it or not. being british too but it's something else... well that's a good question regarding northern irish... they are not right? they are... unitedkingdomians? lol, whatever it might be called. english, welsh and scotts -> all british though.
Catalans might be independentists, bascs too, but I doubt they would be interested in leaving the liga to create a useless regional championship that would make all their teams uncompetitive. The welsh got that and the 2 best teams left their useless league to join the EPL.
Same in France... would the corsicans want to leave the french league??? they could always do a league with sardenia lol. You have the AC ajaccio (falling in second next year) and the SC bastia in first division; the CA bastia in second (falling to third next season) and the GFCO ajaccio in third division (about to get back in second, like the AC). Sardenia has Calgari in serie A
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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:34 am

betiko wrote:well, being part of the british isles is a geographic reality, like it or not. being british too but it's something else... well that's a good question regarding northern irish... they are not right? they are... unitedkingdomians? lol, whatever it might be called. english, welsh and scotts -> all british though.
Catalans might be independentists, bascs too, but I doubt they would be interested in leaving the liga to create a useless regional championship that would make all their teams uncompetitive. The welsh got that and the 2 best teams left their useless league to join the EPL.
Same in France... would the corsicans want to leave the french league??? they could always do a league with sardenia lol. You have the AC ajaccio (falling in second next year) and the SC bastia in first division; the CA bastia in second (falling to third next season) and the GFCO ajaccio in third division (about to get back in second, like the AC). Sardenia has Calgari in serie A


Like I said its complicated,the British Isles is a geographic entity like Iberia or Scandanavia,it contains more than one country.Northern Ireland is part of the UK but many Irish are agin this resulting in the 'troubles' of recent history.
Btw Cardiff and Swansea were never in the Welsh leagues,they were promoted to the EPL from the Championship
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:38 am

chang50 wrote:
betiko wrote:well, being part of the british isles is a geographic reality, like it or not. being british too but it's something else... well that's a good question regarding northern irish... they are not right? they are... unitedkingdomians? lol, whatever it might be called. english, welsh and scotts -> all british though.
Catalans might be independentists, bascs too, but I doubt they would be interested in leaving the liga to create a useless regional championship that would make all their teams uncompetitive. The welsh got that and the 2 best teams left their useless league to join the EPL.
Same in France... would the corsicans want to leave the french league??? they could always do a league with sardenia lol. You have the AC ajaccio (falling in second next year) and the SC bastia in first division; the CA bastia in second (falling to third next season) and the GFCO ajaccio in third division (about to get back in second, like the AC). Sardenia has Calgari in serie A


Like I said its complicated,the British Isles is a geographic entity like Iberia or Scandanavia,it contains more than one country.Northern Ireland is part of the UK but many Irish are agin this resulting in the 'troubles' of recent history.
Btw Cardiff and Swansea were never in the Welsh leagues,they were promoted to the EPL from the Championship


i know all this obviously ;)
regarding cardiff and swansea: they did make the choice to join the FA at some point and leave the welsh federation.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:23 am

betiko wrote:
chang50 wrote:
betiko wrote:well, being part of the british isles is a geographic reality, like it or not. being british too but it's something else... well that's a good question regarding northern irish... they are not right? they are... unitedkingdomians? lol, whatever it might be called. english, welsh and scotts -> all british though.
Catalans might be independentists, bascs too, but I doubt they would be interested in leaving the liga to create a useless regional championship that would make all their teams uncompetitive. The welsh got that and the 2 best teams left their useless league to join the EPL.
Same in France... would the corsicans want to leave the french league??? they could always do a league with sardenia lol. You have the AC ajaccio (falling in second next year) and the SC bastia in first division; the CA bastia in second (falling to third next season) and the GFCO ajaccio in third division (about to get back in second, like the AC). Sardenia has Calgari in serie A


Like I said its complicated,the British Isles is a geographic entity like Iberia or Scandanavia,it contains more than one country.Northern Ireland is part of the UK but many Irish are agin this resulting in the 'troubles' of recent history.
Btw Cardiff and Swansea were never in the Welsh leagues,they were promoted to the EPL from the Championship


i know all this obviously ;)
regarding cardiff and swansea: they did make the choice to join the FA at some point and leave the welsh federation.


For a century or so until 2011 they were under the governance of the Welsh FA who allowed them to play in the English leagues,but now they are under the FA.I hadn't realised this had changed until I googled it..
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:17 pm

chang50 wrote:
betiko wrote:
chang50 wrote:
betiko wrote:well, being part of the british isles is a geographic reality, like it or not. being british too but it's something else... well that's a good question regarding northern irish... they are not right? they are... unitedkingdomians? lol, whatever it might be called. english, welsh and scotts -> all british though.
Catalans might be independentists, bascs too, but I doubt they would be interested in leaving the liga to create a useless regional championship that would make all their teams uncompetitive. The welsh got that and the 2 best teams left their useless league to join the EPL.
Same in France... would the corsicans want to leave the french league??? they could always do a league with sardenia lol. You have the AC ajaccio (falling in second next year) and the SC bastia in first division; the CA bastia in second (falling to third next season) and the GFCO ajaccio in third division (about to get back in second, like the AC). Sardenia has Calgari in serie A


Like I said its complicated,the British Isles is a geographic entity like Iberia or Scandanavia,it contains more than one country.Northern Ireland is part of the UK but many Irish are agin this resulting in the 'troubles' of recent history.
Btw Cardiff and Swansea were never in the Welsh leagues,they were promoted to the EPL from the Championship


i know all this obviously ;)
regarding cardiff and swansea: they did make the choice to join the FA at some point and leave the welsh federation.


For a century or so until 2011 they were under the governance of the Welsh FA who allowed them to play in the English leagues,but now they are under the FA.I hadn't realised this had changed until I googled it..


i didn't know that it was in 2011. your second division is called league one? or maybe that's third division... anyways... i was living in the UK in 2011 and I remember that when they showed tables of english second division. so they joined directly second division when they joined the FA?? Also, it's surprising that they are that good.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:20 pm

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Re: Football (real)

Postby chang50 on Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:25 am

betiko wrote:
chang50 wrote:
betiko wrote:
chang50 wrote:
betiko wrote:well, being part of the british isles is a geographic reality, like it or not. being british too but it's something else... well that's a good question regarding northern irish... they are not right? they are... unitedkingdomians? lol, whatever it might be called. english, welsh and scotts -> all british though.
Catalans might be independentists, bascs too, but I doubt they would be interested in leaving the liga to create a useless regional championship that would make all their teams uncompetitive. The welsh got that and the 2 best teams left their useless league to join the EPL.
Same in France... would the corsicans want to leave the french league??? they could always do a league with sardenia lol. You have the AC ajaccio (falling in second next year) and the SC bastia in first division; the CA bastia in second (falling to third next season) and the GFCO ajaccio in third division (about to get back in second, like the AC). Sardenia has Calgari in serie A


Like I said its complicated,the British Isles is a geographic entity like Iberia or Scandanavia,it contains more than one country.Northern Ireland is part of the UK but many Irish are agin this resulting in the 'troubles' of recent history.
Btw Cardiff and Swansea were never in the Welsh leagues,they were promoted to the EPL from the Championship


i know all this obviously ;)
regarding cardiff and swansea: they did make the choice to join the FA at some point and leave the welsh federation.


For a century or so until 2011 they were under the governance of the Welsh FA who allowed them to play in the English leagues,but now they are under the FA.I hadn't realised this had changed until I googled it..


i didn't know that it was in 2011. your second division is called league one? or maybe that's third division... anyways... i was living in the UK in 2011 and I remember that when they showed tables of english second division. so they joined directly second division when they joined the FA?? Also, it's surprising that they are that good.


They just carried on in the league they were in already only under FA jurisdiction.Did you know there is a Spanish side playing in the French league system?In a lower league obviously.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:40 am

Uh? Who? No i never heard of it. Must be a really really low league. You sure??
Andorra football teams play in spain, and monaco as you all know in france. Andorra is a bit more spanish than french culturally, and monaco quite more french than italian.
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