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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:59 pm

betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:I came

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I came (no pun intended) here precisely to ask you if you came after I watched the highlights! :lol: :lol:

Gosh... Now america vs impact, what a day for you!


It's like a fairy tale for Chicharito that seems to have been born with an angel, that in spite of not having a great talent, he works hard non stop with a blind faith that everything will work out. The shot that Oblak stopped is more representative for me of what he is, Godin charges him and he just doesnt fall, well he does, but continues to fight and gets to shot.

In the end RM must bet again for the player with great talent but Chicharito had his day and RM fans won't forget it.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Wed May 06, 2015 3:38 pm

BarƧa 2009 vs barƧa 2015.... which is the best?
barƧa 2015 is definitely hammertime materal....
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Wed May 06, 2015 3:41 pm

betiko wrote:BarƧa 2009 vs barƧa 2015.... which is the best?
barƧa 2015 is definitely hammertime materal....


i dont know which one is the best but i like this one much better, i even started saying i like how messi plays 3 months ago.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Wed May 06, 2015 3:52 pm

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betiko wrote:BarƧa 2009 vs barƧa 2015.... which is the best?
barƧa 2015 is definitely hammertime materal....


i dont know which one is the best but i like this one much better, i even started saying i like how messi plays 3 months ago.


shit dude.... messi-suarez-neymar all 3 at their best....
Iniesta is still decent, xavi is finished but you have a guy like rakitic doing the job.
Actually, if I look at the team from keeper to midfield, the 2009 was better... but FFS this year's attack.... I have to go with the 2015 team.

I think I don't feel so bad about PSG's ass kicking in the previous round vs barcelona when I see what they just did to Bayern.
I also don't feel so bad about Monaco not qualifying against the Juve, given how they made the real madrid play just like they wanted.

Barcelona will win the 3 titles this year, they are unstopable.

Aso, I find it funny to hear journalists mentioning that Guardiola has been 6 years straight in CL semi finals. Seriously... The guy has been coaching Barcelona and Bayern with probably the best teams these 2 clubs ever had, or close enough. Making it 6 times straight to the final would've been the minimum.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Wed May 06, 2015 4:29 pm

RM went to camp nou some 40 days ago and they dominated Barca in the first half, and Barca got lucky in the end. But we had Modric.

I'm not so sure we wanted to face Bayern in Berlin. Maybe this is the best for RM.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Wed May 06, 2015 4:46 pm

nietzsche wrote:RM went to camp nou some 40 days ago and they dominated Barca in the first half, and Barca got lucky in the end. But we had Modric.

I'm not so sure we wanted to face Bayern in Berlin. Maybe this is the best for RM.


yup, madrid definitely would have no complex against barcelona in normal circumstances, but it just feels that at this stage of the season they got lucky with injuries and overall shape of their players. They are definitely at their prime.
I think Madrid will qualify against the juve but you will have time to shit in your pants. If it's a madrid barƧa final, you'd better start praying that the best starting 11 possible will be at 100%.
I hope barƧa beats you guys. That would make 5 v 10 CL titles.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Thu May 07, 2015 8:25 pm

betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:RM went to camp nou some 40 days ago and they dominated Barca in the first half, and Barca got lucky in the end. But we had Modric.

I'm not so sure we wanted to face Bayern in Berlin. Maybe this is the best for RM.


yup, madrid definitely would have no complex against barcelona in normal circumstances, but it just feels that at this stage of the season they got lucky with injuries and overall shape of their players. They are definitely at their prime.
I think Madrid will qualify against the juve but you will have time to shit in your pants. If it's a madrid barƧa final, you'd better start praying that the best starting 11 possible will be at 100%.
I hope barƧa beats you guys. That would make 5 v 10 CL titles.


That Classico was a crucial turn.. Barcelona have been brilliant since the beginning of 2015.. Real Madrid could have beaten and stopped them in March... Instead, they missed the chances and let Barca continue building up their amazing performance and run.

I believe their very good shape has to do with Enrique's rotation in the beginning of the season.. It cost the team some matches and they drop some points.. Most of us thought Enrique wasn't capable of managing a team like Barca, but when he started using a stable formation and XI, they just bulldozed every opposition in all competitions. It looks like the big stars are not too tired because they didn't play too much in the 1st half of the season.

The difference between Guardiola and Enrique, the latter learns from his past mistakes, while it looks like Pep will never do. You can't just go to Camp Nuo and attack like crazy and make your defense line advance too much, given that you are facing Messi, Neymar and Suarez. It's time for him to realize how poor his tactics can be. He's just unable to handle a crisis. You conceded a goal at 77, I understand it's gonna be a tough mission to enter the next game with a 0-1 deficit, but it doesn't mean you go crazy against Barca and let them deepen your defeat!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby waauw on Thu May 07, 2015 8:29 pm

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:RM went to camp nou some 40 days ago and they dominated Barca in the first half, and Barca got lucky in the end. But we had Modric.

I'm not so sure we wanted to face Bayern in Berlin. Maybe this is the best for RM.


yup, madrid definitely would have no complex against barcelona in normal circumstances, but it just feels that at this stage of the season they got lucky with injuries and overall shape of their players. They are definitely at their prime.
I think Madrid will qualify against the juve but you will have time to shit in your pants. If it's a madrid barƧa final, you'd better start praying that the best starting 11 possible will be at 100%.
I hope barƧa beats you guys. That would make 5 v 10 CL titles.


That Classico was a crucial turn.. Barcelona have been brilliant since the beginning of 2015.. Real Madrid could have beaten and stopped them in March... Instead, they missed the chances and let Barca continue building up their amazing performance and run.

I believe their very good shape has to do with Enrique's rotation in the beginning of the season.. It cost the team some matches and they drop some points.. Most of us thought Enrique wasn't capable of managing a team like Barca, but when he started using a stable formation and XI, they just bulldozed every opposition in all competitions. It looks like the big stars are not too tired because they didn't play too much in the 1st half of the season.

The difference between Guardiola and Enrique, the latter learns from his past mistakes, while it looks like Pep will never do. You can't just go to Camp Nuo and attack like crazy and make your defense line advance too much, given that you are facing Messi, Neymar and Suarez. It's time for him to realize how poor his tactics can be. He's just unable to handle a crisis. You conceded a goal at 77, I understand it's gonna be a tough mission to enter the next game with a 0-1 deficit, but it doesn't mean you go crazy against Barca and let them deepen your defeat!


Well to be fair, that second goal was just absolute world class. No amount of strategy is going to stop Messi if he's dribbling and finishing like that.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Thu May 07, 2015 9:55 pm

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:RM went to camp nou some 40 days ago and they dominated Barca in the first half, and Barca got lucky in the end. But we had Modric.

I'm not so sure we wanted to face Bayern in Berlin. Maybe this is the best for RM.


yup, madrid definitely would have no complex against barcelona in normal circumstances, but it just feels that at this stage of the season they got lucky with injuries and overall shape of their players. They are definitely at their prime.
I think Madrid will qualify against the juve but you will have time to shit in your pants. If it's a madrid barƧa final, you'd better start praying that the best starting 11 possible will be at 100%.
I hope barƧa beats you guys. That would make 5 v 10 CL titles.


That Classico was a crucial turn.. Barcelona have been brilliant since the beginning of 2015.. Real Madrid could have beaten and stopped them in March... Instead, they missed the chances and let Barca continue building up their amazing performance and run.

I believe their very good shape has to do with Enrique's rotation in the beginning of the season.. It cost the team some matches and they drop some points.. Most of us thought Enrique wasn't capable of managing a team like Barca, but when he started using a stable formation and XI, they just bulldozed every opposition in all competitions. It looks like the big stars are not too tired because they didn't play too much in the 1st half of the season.

The difference between Guardiola and Enrique, the latter learns from his past mistakes, while it looks like Pep will never do. You can't just go to Camp Nuo and attack like crazy and make your defense line advance too much, given that you are facing Messi, Neymar and Suarez. It's time for him to realize how poor his tactics can be. He's just unable to handle a crisis. You conceded a goal at 77, I understand it's gonna be a tough mission to enter the next game with a 0-1 deficit, but it doesn't mean you go crazy against Barca and let them deepen your defeat!


I agree with almost all you said.

Completely agree with the Guardiola part, I couldn't believe what I was watching, when Barcelona was dominating and being very dangerous and Guardiola didn't modify, as if his coaching project was more important that the game itself. Ok, you are 0-1, but you're still alive and have been lucky, why not close the game right there. This is what makes me love Mourinho and coaches like him, that make substitutions when they're needed. I can't stand for instance Ancelotti's way of letting things get out of hand when you can see then coming.

And I don't know about the rotations, but Barcelona was biting like mad dogs yesterday, every time a Bayern player received the ball they were quickly there trying to steal it. Something you don't see in RM now.

Where I don't agree with you is that you sort of infer Barza will beat RM, they will NOT!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu May 07, 2015 10:05 pm

Pirlo wrote:
betiko wrote:
nietzsche wrote:RM went to camp nou some 40 days ago and they dominated Barca in the first half, and Barca got lucky in the end. But we had Modric.

I'm not so sure we wanted to face Bayern in Berlin. Maybe this is the best for RM.


yup, madrid definitely would have no complex against barcelona in normal circumstances, but it just feels that at this stage of the season they got lucky with injuries and overall shape of their players. They are definitely at their prime.
I think Madrid will qualify against the juve but you will have time to shit in your pants. If it's a madrid barƧa final, you'd better start praying that the best starting 11 possible will be at 100%.
I hope barƧa beats you guys. That would make 5 v 10 CL titles.


That Classico was a crucial turn.. Barcelona have been brilliant since the beginning of 2015.. Real Madrid could have beaten and stopped them in March... Instead, they missed the chances and let Barca continue building up their amazing performance and run.

I believe their very good shape has to do with Enrique's rotation in the beginning of the season.. It cost the team some matches and they drop some points.. Most of us thought Enrique wasn't capable of managing a team like Barca, but when he started using a stable formation and XI, they just bulldozed every opposition in all competitions. It looks like the big stars are not too tired because they didn't play too much in the 1st half of the season.

The difference between Guardiola and Enrique, the latter learns from his past mistakes, while it looks like Pep will never do. You can't just go to Camp Nuo and attack like crazy and make your defense line advance too much, given that you are facing Messi, Neymar and Suarez. It's time for him to realize how poor his tactics can be. He's just unable to handle a crisis. You conceded a goal at 77, I understand it's gonna be a tough mission to enter the next game with a 0-1 deficit, but it doesn't mean you go crazy against Barca and let them deepen your defeat!


well like waauw said.... no one could've stopped that second goal, boateng was like a muppet and he's a great defense. And that second goal was too much in their head and that one lead to the third, but guardiola seemed to have found the key to play them in the second half. That catalan attack is just unstoppable. Could've ended 2-0 if guardiola had been more cautious yes, but I think that 2-0 was the minimum. In fact, it's impossible not to receive at least 2 goals from that team. You know that you will need to score 3 minimum if you want to win.

Also please, don't do like all those clueless foreign journalists that call Luis Enrique "Enrique". Luis Enrique is his first name, it just makes me eyeroll each time I hear someone call him Enrique as if it was his last name. He was a great well known player not too long ago ffs. Not like some coach comming out of nowhere you've never heard of.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Thu May 07, 2015 10:28 pm

lol, you could've told him that without calling him clueless!

You can't blame him for not knowing if Enrique is a first name or last name, there's no pattern to follow really in the way La Liga calls his players.

Like, you have Xabi Alonso, who you could think think both were his first name, but in this case Alonso is last name. Then some call the Barca player Xavi, others Xavi Hernandez. It's not as easy for someone doens't speak the language.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Thu May 07, 2015 10:40 pm

nietzsche wrote:Where I don't agree with you is that you sort of infer Barza will beat RM, they will NOT!
They won't have to - Juve will do it for them. :D
A BarƧa-Juve final will be pretty interesting, I think - though I'm sure we all know BarƧa will win.

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu May 07, 2015 10:54 pm

nietzsche wrote:lol, you could've told him that without calling him clueless!

You can't blame him for not knowing if Enrique is a first name or last name, there's no pattern to follow really in the way La Liga calls his players.

Like, you have Xabi Alonso, who you could think think both were his first name, but in this case Alonso is last name. Then some call the Barca player Xavi, others Xavi Hernandez. It's not as easy for someone doens't speak the language.


it's just that I heard the french comentators in the barƧa-bayern yesterday calling him Enrique all game and it's the type of things that really gets on my nerves. And pirlo is a sports journalist so I guess after being a bit harsh with him he will remember next time, and he will not write that kind of nonsense to his audience! :lol:
And yeah... a bit hard to say for a foreigner but no way xabi alonso could be a double first name that shit would sound awful! Or like Fernando Alonso... I don't think there is any combination for alonso as a double first name.
The barƧa player is Xavi for everybody... Just like Raul is Raul, not Raul Blanco. Luis Enrique, not Luis Enrique Martinez. You got a few that use the diminutive of their double first name like juanfran (juan francisco) and many others. I don't know, Luis Enrique had some tough years when he played for the real madrid even if he was always in the national team, but when he signed for barcelona he was a real key player, and remained a key player for quite some time, so I figured at least journalists would know he spent his whole career being called by his first name, he was a top player.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Thu May 07, 2015 10:58 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:
nietzsche wrote:Where I don't agree with you is that you sort of infer Barza will beat RM, they will NOT!
They won't have to - Juve will do it for them. :D
A BarƧa-Juve final will be pretty interesting, I think - though I'm sure we all know BarƧa will win.

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i think 90% of the planet would find a barƧa-real more interesting than a bara-juve though ;)
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Thu May 07, 2015 11:40 pm

What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
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Re: Football (real)

Postby sempaispellcheck on Fri May 08, 2015 5:22 am

nietzsche wrote:What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
From what I've heard:
1) The Spanish gov't wants TV revenues split more evenly, and the league doesn't like that, so it's claiming excessive gov't interference in its affairs, and
2) The players are on board with the strike because the gov't proposal gives 1% of revenues to players in other sports, but none to players in La Liga.

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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri May 08, 2015 7:14 am

sempaispellcheck wrote:
nietzsche wrote:What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
From what I've heard:
1) The Spanish gov't wants TV revenues split more evenly, and the league doesn't like that, so it's claiming excessive gov't interference in its affairs, and
2) The players are on board with the strike because the gov't proposal gives 1% of revenues to players in other sports, but none to players in La Liga.

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the rights of the liga in spain are negociated club by club in order to give the giggest part of the cake to madrid and barcelona, in an absolutely unfair way.
Last week the LFP came to an agreement to mutualise TV rights to sell the liga as a whole as a product, just as all the other leagues do.
I didn't look too much into what happened yesterday, but f*ck madrid and barcelona. Complete unfair system. Just look at the premier league and how evenly TV rights are split from first till last...
In france a big part of the cake of the TV rights is given to amateur football. It's important to have all those small clubs competing at a more modest level and it's very hard for them to make ends meet.
The spanish league is the worse kind of capitalistic shit system. Not to mention how corrupted it is and how all cheaters get away with their shit. I've never seen a spanish club retrograded to the lower division because of their cheating. At the end of each season tons of money are moved from one club to another to get help from clubs that have nothing in play. There are countless revealed stories and nothing is ever done about it. In france when some story like that comes ot, the cheater always end up playing one division bellow the next year; same thing if their budget ends up in negatives and they can't do anything to cope with their money losses. The spanish don't give a shit about anything and it's all about corruption.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby waauw on Fri May 08, 2015 7:34 am

betiko wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:
nietzsche wrote:What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
From what I've heard:
1) The Spanish gov't wants TV revenues split more evenly, and the league doesn't like that, so it's claiming excessive gov't interference in its affairs, and
2) The players are on board with the strike because the gov't proposal gives 1% of revenues to players in other sports, but none to players in La Liga.

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the rights of the liga in spain are negociated club by club in order to give the giggest part of the cake to madrid and barcelona, in an absolutely unfair way.
Last week the LFP came to an agreement to mutualise TV rights to sell the liga as a whole as a product, just as all the other leagues do.
I didn't look too much into what happened yesterday, but f*ck madrid and barcelona. Complete unfair system. Just look at the premier league and how evenly TV rights are split from first till last...
In france a big part of the cake of the TV rights is given to amateur football. It's important to have all those small clubs competing at a more modest level and it's very hard for them to make ends meet.
The spanish league is the worse kind of capitalistic shit system. Not to mention how corrupted it is and how all cheaters get away with their shit. I've never seen a spanish club retrograded to the lower division because of their cheating. At the end of each season tons of money are moved from one club to another to get help from clubs that have nothing in play. There are countless revealed stories and nothing is ever done about it. In france when some story like that comes ot, the cheater always end up playing one division bellow the next year; same thing if their budget ends up in negatives and they can't do anything to cope with their money losses. The spanish don't give a shit about anything and it's all about corruption.


I agree. There is a reason why the german and british clubs are so rich and so much more competitive than the spanish competition. In the long run it's a lot more fun if the champions league tickets aren't always given to the same clubs. In Germany, except for Bayern, you constantly see other teams show up for european tickets. And in England there are way more teams competing for them than there are in Spain. The spanish competition is like a feodal system where the top teams let the others fight for grains while they stuff their faces. It just seems like such an outdated system.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Fri May 08, 2015 8:54 am

waauw wrote:
betiko wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:
nietzsche wrote:What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
From what I've heard:
1) The Spanish gov't wants TV revenues split more evenly, and the league doesn't like that, so it's claiming excessive gov't interference in its affairs, and
2) The players are on board with the strike because the gov't proposal gives 1% of revenues to players in other sports, but none to players in La Liga.

sempai


the rights of the liga in spain are negociated club by club in order to give the giggest part of the cake to madrid and barcelona, in an absolutely unfair way.
Last week the LFP came to an agreement to mutualise TV rights to sell the liga as a whole as a product, just as all the other leagues do.
I didn't look too much into what happened yesterday, but f*ck madrid and barcelona. Complete unfair system. Just look at the premier league and how evenly TV rights are split from first till last...
In france a big part of the cake of the TV rights is given to amateur football. It's important to have all those small clubs competing at a more modest level and it's very hard for them to make ends meet.
The spanish league is the worse kind of capitalistic shit system. Not to mention how corrupted it is and how all cheaters get away with their shit. I've never seen a spanish club retrograded to the lower division because of their cheating. At the end of each season tons of money are moved from one club to another to get help from clubs that have nothing in play. There are countless revealed stories and nothing is ever done about it. In france when some story like that comes ot, the cheater always end up playing one division bellow the next year; same thing if their budget ends up in negatives and they can't do anything to cope with their money losses. The spanish don't give a shit about anything and it's all about corruption.


I agree. There is a reason why the german and british clubs are so rich and so much more competitive than the spanish competition. In the long run it's a lot more fun if the champions league tickets aren't always given to the same clubs. In Germany, except for Bayern, you constantly see other teams show up for european tickets. And in England there are way more teams competing for them than there are in Spain. The spanish competition is like a feodal system where the top teams let the others fight for grains while they stuff their faces. It just seems like such an outdated system.


as a real betis fan I can tell you it's really annoying, you have to add the media coverage. Each time I go to spain and I see a TV football show I get really angry. Say you have an atletico-valencia being the only game played that night, and they won't give a shit. They would start talking for hours how cristiano ronaldo looked sad 3 days ago on the field, how messi might not be agreeing with some recent changes in the system, what will happen in both team's games in the next 4 games. 95% of the programs will be about madrid and barcelona casual talking, and that % has just been growing over the years, just as the TV rights they get.
The worse part is that there is barely any football analysis about anything. It's all about rumours of this and that player that are not getting along, what they should recruit during the summer, how bad their coaches are and who should replace them, the new tattoo tiddledee made on his shoulder, tiddledoo that has been seen on a night out drinking, and tiddlewee's new car. Makes me puke, spanish people get totally lobotomized by all that shit. It really wasn't like that 10-20 years ago.

Germany has some awfully shit TV rights dude. When bayern wins the bundesliga, they get like 4 times less TV money than the guy who finishes last of the EPL. In Germany the stadiums are always full and people pay a decent amount of money for their tickets. Clubs are very cautious with what they spend and are very reasonable. The complete opposite of spain where they all spend money they don't have and no one gives a shit about it. So club A sells tiddledoo to club B; but club B ends up not paying because they don't have the money. Club A with that money has recruited other players but now can't pay for it because club B didn't respect its financial agreement. Most of the clubs don't pay their taxes because they are so terribly managed and the government always gives tax credits, nothing is ever done to stop their shit system. Of course, if it's a small club it's ok to f*ck them up, but if you're madrid or barcelona nothing will ever be done to you, it's always threats in the air.
Then if the UEFA does something, spanish people always blame Platini.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Fri May 08, 2015 1:11 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:
nietzsche wrote:What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
From what I've heard:
1) The Spanish gov't wants TV revenues split more evenly, and the league doesn't like that, so it's claiming excessive gov't interference in its affairs, and
2) The players are on board with the strike because the gov't proposal gives 1% of revenues to players in other sports, but none to players in La Liga.

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That's all well and good, but I want this fixed. I don't want La Liga to end after 36 games, we need Barcelona to visit Atletico de Madrid.

Or, maybe it can stop a little bit, like some weeks, then start again in June and Barcelona wouldn't have Messi, Mascherano and Neymar vs Atleti.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby nietzsche on Fri May 08, 2015 1:11 pm

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nietzsche wrote:What do you guys know of the possible strike in La Liga, starting on the 16th, the weekend Barca visits Atleti?
From what I've heard:
1) The Spanish gov't wants TV revenues split more evenly, and the league doesn't like that, so it's claiming excessive gov't interference in its affairs, and
2) The players are on board with the strike because the gov't proposal gives 1% of revenues to players in other sports, but none to players in La Liga.

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That's all well and good, but I want this fixed. I don't want La Liga to end after 36 games, we need Barcelona to visit Atletico de Madrid.

Or, maybe it can stop a little bit, like some weeks, then start again in June and Barcelona wouldn't have Messi, Mascherano and Neymar vs Atleti.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Fri May 08, 2015 6:36 pm

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Well to be fair, that second goal was just absolute world class. No amount of strategy is going to stop Messi if he's dribbling and finishing like that.


I think that's why you should know better than letting Messi be faced by only one defender.. He's the kind of players who must be tightly marked.

nietzsche wrote:Where I don't agree with you is that you sort of infer Barza will beat RM, they will NOT!


Well, I'm not sure if I did. I don't even know if any or both of them will make it to final. We can't predict future and act like they are certainly through. When I mentioned Real Madrid, it was about their last Classico, which is a history now. I was saying Madrid could have won if they didn't miss the bunch of chances they had. 10 minutes after the interval, Luisito scored when Casillas made a rookie mistake. It was so damned frustrating and the game totally changed.

betiko wrote:Also please, don't do like all those clueless foreign journalists that call Luis Enrique "Enrique". Luis Enrique is his first name, it just makes me eyeroll each time I hear someone call him Enrique as if it was his last name. He was a great well known player not too long ago ffs. Not like some coach comming out of nowhere you've never heard of.


Oh well, thanks for the tip. Spanish names usually confuse me as they are so long comparing to others, just like nietzsche said. I think I'm gonna call him LE sometimes.

By the way, if you can see the first goal again on youtube, can you explain why Messi was alone and unmarked at his very favorite spot of shooting? Nuer grabbed the ball and immediately put it into play when he should have waited for few seconds for a relief. He didn't do it probably because Bayern had no plan of getting out with a goalless draw. They seemed to be pushed for a win. The ball was put into play when Barca were highly pressing and Bayern's defense lost it, which didn't leave the defenders any chance to take back their right positions. Messi was given a gift and BOOM.. game is over!
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Re: Football (real)

Postby got tonkaed on Fri May 08, 2015 10:43 pm

There was no need to try and play that from the back though. The defender tried to possess the ball too far and then got tackled. If he was under too much pressure simply play it back to Neuer or hit it up field. It wasn't like Bayern weren't surviving with Barcelona in possession at that point anyway.
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Re: Football (real)

Postby Pirlo on Fri May 08, 2015 11:29 pm

And the La Liga could end in a totally unexpected fashion!

It says fixtures 37 and 38 could be skipped, and the season is over next Monday according to some dumb bylaws over there.

http://www.marca.com/en/2015/05/08/en/f ... =522861680
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Re: Football (real)

Postby betiko on Sat May 09, 2015 6:01 am

Pirlo wrote:And the La Liga could end in a totally unexpected fashion!

It says fixtures 37 and 38 could be skipped, and the season is over next Monday according to some dumb bylaws over there.

http://www.marca.com/en/2015/05/08/en/f ... =522861680


That s what we were discussing 3-4 posts ago ;)
You can say the liga directly, otherwise it s like saying "the the premier league!" :P
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