saxitoxin wrote:Stories like this video are exactly the reason I question Dukasaur, GabonX, and Metsfanmax when they try to push Hamas torture porn from personal blogs and fly-by-night websites and "Latest News - Biblical Perspective!"
That's at least a little hypocritical coming from someone that claims something called "972 mag" somehow disproves Hamas wasn't utilizing tunnels to burrow into Israeli civilian areas, despite that the New York Times and every other major media outlet reported it.
From the about section of 972 mag:
- +972 is a blog-based web magazine that is jointly owned by a group of journalists, bloggers and photographers whose goal is to provide fresh, original, on-the-ground reporting and analysis of events in Israel and Palestine. Our collective is committed to human rights and freedom of information, and we oppose the occupation. However, +972 Magazine does not represent any organization, political party or specific agenda.
We see +972 as a platform for our bloggers to share analysis, reports, ideas, images and videos on their channels. Each blogger owns his or her channel and has full rights over its contents (unless otherwise stated). The bloggers alone are responsible for the content posted on their channels; the positions expressed on individual blogs reflect those of their authors, and not +972 as a whole.
This is just another example of Saxitoxin being willing to say anything to promote his strain of anti Zionist antisemitism. Other ridiculous arguments he's espoused recently include the often cited white supremacist straw man that Zionism is a racial movement, Jews are not a race, and this somehow invalidates Zionism holds no water as neither premise is true.
That is to say that DNA evidence indicates that most Jews do share a common genetic lineage originating from the Levant, but that this is irrelevant as Zionism was never intended as a racial movement.
- A study conducted in 2013 refutes any indication of Khazar origin and suggests that " Ashkenazi Jews share the greatest genetic ancestry with other Jewish populations, and among non-Jewish populations, with groups from Europe and the Middle East. No particular similarity of Ashkenazi Jews with populations from the Caucasus is evident, particularly with the populations that most closely represent the Khazar region. Thus, analysis of Ashkenazi Jews together with a large sample from the region of the Khazar Khaganate corroborates the earlier results that Ashkenazi Jews derive their ancestry primarily from populations of the Middle East and Europe, that they possess considerable shared ancestry with other Jewish populations, and that there is no indication of a significant genetic contribution either from within or from north of the Caucasus region."[9]
Studies of autosomal DNA, which look at the entire DNA mixture, have become increasingly important as the technology develops. They show that Jewish populations have tended to form relatively closely related groups in independent communities, with most in a community sharing significant ancestry in common.[15] For Jewish populations of the diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show a predominant amount of shared Middle Eastern ancestry. According to Behar, the most parsimonious explanation for this shared Middle Eastern ancestry is that it is "consistent with the historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelite residents of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".[16] North African, Italian and others of Iberian origin show variable frequencies of admixture with non-Jewish historical host populations among the maternal lines. In the case of Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews (in particular Moroccan Jews), who are apparently closely related, the non-Jewish component is mainly southern European. Behar et al. have remarked on an especially close relationship to modern Italians.[17][18] The studies show that the Bene Israel and Black Cochin Jews of India, Beta Israel of Ethiopia, and a portion of the Lemba people of southern Africa, while more closely resembling the local populations of their native countries, have some ancient Jewish descent.[13][19][20][21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews
So no, Jews are not a "pure race" but they do tend to have a common, albeit deluded lineage. Of course the concept of race is irrelevant in Zionism as Theodore Herzl envisioned Israel as a haven for Jews to be free of antisemitism regardless of their racial origins.