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China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:56 am

1. Censorship out the ass.
Freedom of speech is non existent, freedom of press is also non existent, and censorship of the internet is ridiculous in China.
China's government largely regulates everything.


2. One child policy.
A policy that doesn't really work.
Doesn't this policy just make anyone cringe anyways? Anti-family as it gets.


3. Discrimination
China does not recognize same sex marriage or civil unions. Not only that, but transgenders are largely mistreated by China.
Also, this:
African students in China have complained about their treatment in China. Their complaints largely ignored until 1988ā€“9, when 'students rose up in protest against what they called "Chinese apartheid'".[184] African officials took notice of the issue, and the Organization of African Unity issued an official protest. The organization's chairman, President Moussa TraorĆ© of Mali, went on a fact-finding mission to China.[184] A 1989 report in Guardian stated: 'these practices could threaten Peking's entire relationship with the continent.'[185]

The United Nations reports that it has had difficulty in arranging official visits to China by UN Special Rapporteurs on various human rights issues

What a wonderful place to live.

4. It's Communist
Blah.

Feel free to chime in about how much China sucks. From it's smog covered cities, to the lack of basic human rights.

f*ck China.
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:41 am

DirtyDishSoap wrote:African students in China have complained about their treatment in China... A 1989 report in Guardian stated: 'these practices could threaten Peking's entire relationship with the continent.


DirtyDishSoap wrote:1989


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk about throwing mud at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:04 am

mrswdk wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:1989

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Talk about throwing mud at the wall and seeing what sticks.

The United Nations reports that it has had difficulty in arranging official visits to China by UN Special Rapporteurs on various human rights issues


When a country makes it difficult just for a discussion on human rights, it doesn't look good. ;)
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:24 am

DirtyDishSoap wrote:
The United Nations reports that it has had difficulty in arranging official visits to China by UN Special Rapporteurs on various human rights issues


When a country makes it difficult just for a discussion on human rights, it doesn't look good. ;)


Facilitating criticism from a UN Special Rapporteur =/= engaging in a meaningful discussion on human rights, as the US Government acknowledges when it too ignores the UN's moaning:

US law enforcement officials continue to urge major US Internet and mobile phone companies to weaken the security of their services to facilitate surveillance in the course of criminal investigations. In May, the UN special rapporteur on freedom of expression called on all countries, including the US, to refrain from weakening encryption and other online security measures because such tools are critical for the security of human rights defenders and activists worldwide.


https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016/c ... ted-states

Ditto the UK:

The duty imposed on certain categories of public officials, including teachers, to observe, record and report individuals they may consider ā€œextremistā€ has led to undue restrictions on student union activities and the singling out of students from minority communities. In one instance, a 17-year-old student claimed he was targeted as he expressed his solidarity with the people of the State of Palestine by wearing a Palestine badge and scarf and distributing leaflets on the humanitarian situation there. The student was referred to the authorities under the Prevent strategy, and two police officers subsequently came to his house to question him on his views on Palestine, Israel and the Middle East.

...

The spectre of ā€œBig Brotherā€ is so large, in fact, that some families are reportedly afraid of even discussing the negative effects of terrorism in their own homes, fearing that their children would talk about it at school and have their intentions misconstrued.


http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Countries/ENACA ... Index.aspx

etc.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:38 am

Gee, even though we're pushing it, looks like China has been practicing for quite awhile now.

The personal dignity of citizens of the People's Republic of China is recognized and protected under Article 38 of the Constitution. Further, the freedom and privacy of correspondence of citizens of the People's Republic of China are protected; however Article 40 provides some significant limitations to such rights ā€“ where state secrets or a criminal investigation is involved, police and other authorities can intercept communications as necessary. The expansive concept of ā€œstate secretā€ gives the government supreme power in reviewing and monitoring of communications as necessary.


Oh no, but in America we do this, or America we do that, so everyone loses their shit.
Piss off.

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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:57 am

Wait until sugarplum goes back and they intercept his work here.

They probably won't be singing doo da doo, doo doo..

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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:39 am

DirtyDishSoap wrote:Gee, even though we're pushing it, looks like China has been practicing for quite awhile now.

The personal dignity of citizens of the People's Republic of China is recognized and protected under Article 38 of the Constitution. Further, the freedom and privacy of correspondence of citizens of the People's Republic of China are protected; however Article 40 provides some significant limitations to such rights ā€“ where state secrets or a criminal investigation is involved, police and other authorities can intercept communications as necessary. The expansive concept of ā€œstate secretā€ gives the government supreme power in reviewing and monitoring of communications as necessary.


Oh no, but in America we do this, or America we do that, so everyone loses their shit.
Piss off.

Source


Attempts to troll about how terrible China is.
Realizes China's not actually that different form anywhere else (including America).
Rage quits.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:49 am

mrswdk wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:
The United Nations reports that it has had difficulty in arranging official visits to China by UN Special Rapporteurs on various human rights issues


When a country makes it difficult just for a discussion on human rights, it doesn't look good. ;)


Facilitating criticism from a UN Special Rapporteur =/= engaging in a meaningful discussion on human rights, as the US Government acknowledges when it too ignores the UN's moaning:

US law enforcement officials continue to urge major US Internet and mobile phone companies to weaken the security of their services to facilitate surveillance in the course of criminal investigations. In May, the UN special rapporteur on freedom of expression called on all countries, including the US, to refrain from weakening encryption and other online security measures because such tools are critical for the security of human rights defenders and activists worldwide.


https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2016/c ... ted-states

Ditto the UK:

The duty imposed on certain categories of public officials, including teachers, to observe, record and report individuals they may consider ā€œextremistā€ has led to undue restrictions on student union activities and the singling out of students from minority communities. In one instance, a 17-year-old student claimed he was targeted as he expressed his solidarity with the people of the State of Palestine by wearing a Palestine badge and scarf and distributing leaflets on the humanitarian situation there. The student was referred to the authorities under the Prevent strategy, and two police officers subsequently came to his house to question him on his views on Palestine, Israel and the Middle East.

...

The spectre of ā€œBig Brotherā€ is so large, in fact, that some families are reportedly afraid of even discussing the negative effects of terrorism in their own homes, fearing that their children would talk about it at school and have their intentions misconstrued.


http://www.ohchr.org/EN/Countries/ENACA ... Index.aspx

etc.


Woman in the UK detained under terrorism laws for reading art book:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40668083
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby waauw on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:28 am

mrswdk: keeps claiming China is the best place in the world, still decides to live somewhere else.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:37 am

mrswdk wrote:China's not actually that different form anywhere else


viewtopic.php?f=8&t=224050&p=4955919#p4955696

waauw wrote:mrswdk: keeps claiming China is the best place in the world


viewtopic.php?f=8&t=224050&p=4955919#p4955917
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:00 am

Still lives somewhere else.

I know why. He wouldn't be allowed on this site if he moved to China lol.
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:18 am

mrswdk wrote:
DirtyDishSoap wrote:African students in China have complained about their treatment in China... A 1989 report in Guardian stated: 'these practices could threaten Peking's entire relationship with the continent.


DirtyDishSoap wrote:1989


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk about throwing mud at the wall and seeing what sticks.


Report out from this year (not the 1980s) about the violent and abusive treatment ethnic minorities are subjected to by British police:

Stop and search is often the most confrontational encounter a young person will have with the police. When a search is not carried out with basic levels of decency and sensitivity, it can have a lasting effect on a young person and can make him feel ā€˜victimisedā€™, ā€˜humiliatedā€™, even ā€˜violatedā€™.

Young BAME people express feelings of being harassed and provoked by police officers who are sometimes perceived to want to ā€˜trip them upā€™ and escalate an encounter to a stop and search.

Young BAME people we spoke to also made clear they felt that police often made incorrect assumptions about them, sometimes about their clothing or their behaviour, but most often because of their ethnicity.

Young BAME peopleā€™s perceptions of stop and search have a powerful impact on their overall impression of, and trust in, the police. Nearly two fifths of young BAME people have less trust in the police because of what they know about stop and search.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:44 am

Not entirely sure why you continue deflecting to other countries when it's becoming abundantly clear that China fucking blows and isn't the amazing "free and progressive" country you want it to be.

I urge you to become a resident there. Become a Chinese citizen, and if this website isn't censored over there, tell us about your life over there in a few years time. I'm 100% positive you'll bitch and whine about it being awful.
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby 2dimes on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:43 am

It was not censored last time.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:10 am

DirtyDishSoap wrote:Not entirely sure why you continue deflecting to other countries when it's becoming abundantly clear that China fucking blows and isn't the amazing "free and progressive" country you want it to be.

I urge you to become a resident there. Become a Chinese citizen, and if this website isn't censored over there, tell us about your life over there in a few years time. I'm 100% positive you'll bitch and whine about it being awful.


For the first few years I was on this site I was resident in China, and it was rad.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:41 am

And then you moved.

Good going
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby mrswdk on Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:25 am

DirtyDishSoap wrote:And then you moved.

Good going


I like London, I like Beijing. Not sure what it is about that that makes you so butthurt.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DoomYoshi on Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:26 pm

China announced that American rice is better than Chinese rice:
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40678191
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:36 am

Butthurt? Nah.

Annoyed? Yeah.

Move back there and stfu already. No one wants to listen to your communist propaganda you empty headed twit.
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby waauw on Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:41 am

mrswdk's favorite artist just got banned from China.

To its list of hostile foreign forces - one assumes ranking somewhere below the Dalai Lama and Taiwanese separatists - China has added the name Justin Bieber.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40681026
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Thu Aug 05, 2021 8:22 pm

DirtyDishSoap wrote:Not entirely sure why you continue deflecting to other countries when it's becoming abundantly clear that China fucking blows and isn't the amazing "free and progressive" country you want it to be.

I urge you to become a resident there. Become a Chinese citizen, and if this website isn't censored over there, tell us about your life over there in a few years time. I'm 100% positive you'll bitch and whine about it being awful.


Did this happen? Or did she get censored?
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Symmetry wrote:Ok, so some stuff goes over your head?


No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby KoolBak on Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:31 pm

He.

Banned I hope.
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby riskllama on Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:56 am

yeah, mrs got guested for 6 mos. a while back now... :?
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Re: China sucks, get over it

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:49 pm

Lol. What an idiot.
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No not here anyway. He never said they were forced.


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