SEN. MANCHIN REFUSES TO RULE OUT QUITTING DEMOCRATS!

[saxitoxin]

LOL, no, not really.

Michael Avennatti, Stormy Daniels' attorney once feted by Democrats as their presidential frontrunner for 2020 on the basis of his salacious lies about President Trump that tickled and enticed them, has been sentenced to 14 years hard labor in a federal work camp.



This was purportedly an exchange Avennatti - at the height of his fame and wealth - sent to President Trump's personal publicist Arthur Schwartz in 2018:

[saxitoxin]

[karel]

lol keep watching that fake news

[jonesthecurl]

Well there's this...
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/06/trump-org-guilty-on-all-counts-in-new-york-criminal-tax-fraud-trial-00072609

[saxitoxin]

You don't go after the King and live to tell about it.

[saxitoxin]

Well there's this...
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/06/trump-org-guilty-on-all-counts-in-new-york-criminal-tax-fraud-trial-00072609

LOL ---

The conviction could lead to up to $1.6 million in fines for the former president's company.

Reduced to $800,000 on appeal. Trump could raise that in an afternoon.

[GaryDenton]

Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:

Trump (Republican) — 215

Nixon (Republican) — 76

Reagan (Republican) — 26

"Recent administrations with the LEAST criminal indictments:

Obama (Democrat) — 0

Carter (Democrat) — 1

Clinton (Democrat) — 2

Trump has done well at not only increasing the number of creatures in the swamp, but he has also increased the size of the swamp.

It’s also important to note that unless an administration official is charged with a crime for acts while in office, it’s not always easy to identify which indictments can be connected to a presidential administration; some administration officials have been indicted for acts in the private sector, some indicted people were involved in presidential campaigns but didn’t work in the administration, etc.

Just a bunch of damn lying crooks.

[GaryDenton]

And Georgia just rejected the brain-damaged immoral carpet-bagger that Trump begged to run.

[jusplay4fun]

And Georgia just rejected the brain-damaged immoral carpet-bagger that Trump begged to run.

Walker has LOTS of connections to Georgia.

I think that the wrong term is used here, Walker is not a carpet-bagger.

plural noun: carpetbaggers

a political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections.
HISTORICAL
(in the US) a person from the northern states who went to the South after the Civil War to profit from the Reconstruction.

Herschel Walker is more of a scalawag (BUT he is not white) and was born and raised in Georgia

plural noun: scalawags
a person who behaves badly but in an amusingly mischievous rather than harmful way; a rascal.
US
a white Southerner who collaborated with northern Republicans during Reconstruction, often for personal profit. The term was used derisively by white Southern Democrats who opposed Reconstruction legislation.

Early life
Walker was born in Augusta, Georgia, to Willis and Christine Walker. He was raised in Wrightsville, Georgia.[3] He was one of seven children. Walker said that as a child he was overweight and had a stutter.[4][5]

High school career
Walker attended Johnson County High School in Wrightsville, where he played football, basketball, and competed in track. He played for the Johnson County Trojans high school football team from 1976 to 1979. In his senior year, he rushed for 3,167 yards, helping the Trojans win their first state championship

The problem with Walker is that Trump tried to use the "Trump formula" for a political candidate. Take a famous personality and try to make them a viable political candidate when they have ALMOST zero political experience. The voters of GA and PA both rejected that type of candidate for US Senate. I think that any candidate for the US Senate needs more experience and knowledge of politics. Both set of voters in both states seem to agree with me.

Now it seems that Warnock has little experience (in actual office), but was involved in Politics before running for Senate:

Raphael Gamaliel Warnock[1] (/ˈrɑːfiɛl ˈwɔːrnɒk/ RAH-fee-el WOR-nok; born July 23, 1969) is an American Baptist pastor and politician serving as the junior United States senator from Georgia since 2021. A member of the Democratic Party, he assumed office on January 20, 2021.[2][3]

Since 2005, Warnock has been the senior pastor of Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church.[4][5] He was the senior pastor of Douglas Memorial Community Church until 2005.[6] Warnock came to prominence in Georgia politics as a leading activist in the campaign to expand Medicaid in the state under the Affordable Care Act.

On January 30, 2020, Warnock announced his candidacy in Georgia's 2020 United States Senate special election, seeking to unseat incumbent Republican Kelly Loeffler.[7]

Warnock came to prominence in Georgia politics as a leader in the campaign to expand Medicaid in the state.[49] In March 2014, Warnock led a sit-in at the Georgia State Capitol to press state legislators to accept the expansion of Medicaid offered by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.[50][51] He and other leaders were arrested during the protest.[50][52] Warnock also actively campaigned for Georgia Democrats to increase outreach to low-income communities.[53] In 2015, Warnock considered running in the 2016 election for the United States Senate seat held by Johnny Isakson as a member of the Democratic Party.[54] He opted not to run.[55][56]

From June 2017 to January 2020, Warnock chaired the New Georgia Project, a nonpartisan organization focused on increasing voter registration.[57][39]

Warnock supports expanding the Affordable Care Act and has called for the passage of the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.[58][49] He also supports increasing COVID-19-relief funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Warnock#Political_activism

[saxitoxin]

Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:

Trump (Republican) — 215

Nixon (Republican) — 76

Reagan (Republican) — 26

"Recent administrations with the LEAST criminal indictments:

Obama (Democrat) — 0

Carter (Democrat) — 1

Clinton (Democrat) — 2

LOL yeah so these are made up numbers from a Reddit post. The funniest part is how they omitted the two Bushes (I guess because they said they voted for Biden?).

[saxitoxin]

See I can do it too:

Recent administrations with the LEAST pedophiles:

Trump (Republican) — 0

Nixon (Republican) — 0

Reagan (Republican) — 0

"Recent administrations with the MOST pedophiles::

Obama (Democrat) — 3,456

Carter (Democrat) — 155

Clinton (Democrat) — 284

[saxitoxin]

I have no idea about indictments, but the fact is, there was only one presidential appointee convicted of any crime during Trump's term: Michael Flynn. The same number as during Obama's regime: David Petreus.

[jimboston]

My understanding is Walker filed taxes in Texas.

So yeah… Carpetbagger seems appropriate.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... a6l0nmppwi

If he filed for Texas as his Primary Residence how does he qualify to run in Georgia?

He may have “connections” to Georgia but connections is NOT the same as legal residence.

[saxitoxin]

Biden hasn't spent more than three days in Scranton since he was 9 years old but still claims he's the hard scrabble working class guy from the Electric City. It's better branding than being the guy from the Rehoboth waterfront estate next door to the chairman of Mastercard, I guess.

[saxitoxin]

Walker was an awful candidate but it is telling he lost by only 2 points despite being outspent 2:1 by the Democrats.

Had Walker had money from the mega corporations that bankroll the Rats he would easily have won. A 1:1 spending campaign would be no match. Unfortunately, mega corporation money goes a long way and the corporate candidate won.

Fun fact - in addition to his Senate salary, Warnock gets $90,000 per year in spending cash from his church for fun money so he can enjoy himself and have a good time on the weekends. The church itself receives donations from a variety of mega corporations.

[jimboston]

Walker was an awful candidate but it is telling he lost by only 2 points despite being outspent 2:1 by the Democrats.

Had Walker had money from the mega corporations that bankroll the Rats he would easily have won. A 1:1 spending campaign would be no match. Unfortunately, mega corporation money goes a long way and the corporate candidate won.

Fun fact - in addition to his Senate salary, Warnock gets $90,000 per year in spending cash from his church for fun money so he can enjoy himself and have a good time on the weekends. The church itself receives donations from a variety of mega corporations.

All the votes he got were Anti-Dems not Pro-Walker.

He was/is the worst candidate ever!
(OK slight exaggeration.)

Before everyone knew about his past/his behavior off field he was well respected and a “hero”.

He was an idiot to run in the first place knowing his history he should’ve expected it to surface.

[saxitoxin]

Walker was an awful candidate but it is telling he lost by only 2 points despite being outspent 2:1 by the Democrats.

Had Walker had money from the mega corporations that bankroll the Rats he would easily have won. A 1:1 spending campaign would be no match. Unfortunately, mega corporation money goes a long way and the corporate candidate won.

Fun fact - in addition to his Senate salary, Warnock gets $90,000 per year in spending cash from his church for fun money so he can enjoy himself and have a good time on the weekends. The church itself receives donations from a variety of mega corporations.

All the votes he got were Anti-Dems not Pro-Walker.

He was/is the worst candidate ever!
(OK slight exaggeration.)

Before everyone knew about his past/his behavior off field he was well respected and a “hero”.

He was an idiot to run in the first place knowing his history he should’ve expected it to surface.

You're assigning unrealistic expectations to a guy who appears to have an IQ of four. The guy got a kids' toy badge and thought he was a police officer!

[jimboston]

Walker was an awful candidate but it is telling he lost by only 2 points despite being outspent 2:1 by the Democrats.

Had Walker had money from the mega corporations that bankroll the Rats he would easily have won. A 1:1 spending campaign would be no match. Unfortunately, mega corporation money goes a long way and the corporate candidate won.

Fun fact - in addition to his Senate salary, Warnock gets $90,000 per year in spending cash from his church for fun money so he can enjoy himself and have a good time on the weekends. The church itself receives donations from a variety of mega corporations.

All the votes he got were Anti-Dems not Pro-Walker.

He was/is the worst candidate ever!
(OK slight exaggeration.)

Before everyone knew about his past/his behavior off field he was well respected and a “hero”.

He was an idiot to run in the first place knowing his history he should’ve expected it to surface.

You're assigning unrealistic expectations to a guy who appears to have an IQ of four. The guy got a kids' toy badge and thought he was a police officer!

Yet you wanted him to win?

[mookiemcgee]

Walker was an awful candidate but it is telling he lost by only 2 points despite being outspent 2:1 by the Democrats.

Had Walker had money from the mega corporations that bankroll the Rats he would easily have won. A 1:1 spending campaign would be no match. Unfortunately, mega corporation money goes a long way and the corporate candidate won.

They are calling GA 'purple' because of this... but let's be honest, it's a red state and you guys put up one of the worst candidates ever to run for the senate and lost. When you own son goes public saying don't vote for my dad, he's a wife abuser, deadbeat dad, and lives in Texas it's really really hard to win.

[DaGip]

Trump is going to prison...briefly.
Meanwhile...far away on the Hopi Reservation, the Aliens will land and make allies with the Hopis and the Native Americans.
It's going to be wild!

[mookiemcgee]

Trump is going to prison...briefly.
Meanwhile...far away on the Hopi Reservation, the Aliens will land and make allies with the Hopis and the Native Americans.
It's going to be wild!

Maybe you missed the memo from Saxi but 'Native Americans' no longer exist... at best the aliens will make allies with 'white people parading around in NA garb'

[saxitoxin]

Walker was an awful candidate but it is telling he lost by only 2 points despite being outspent 2:1 by the Democrats.

Had Walker had money from the mega corporations that bankroll the Rats he would easily have won. A 1:1 spending campaign would be no match. Unfortunately, mega corporation money goes a long way and the corporate candidate won.

Fun fact - in addition to his Senate salary, Warnock gets $90,000 per year in spending cash from his church for fun money so he can enjoy himself and have a good time on the weekends. The church itself receives donations from a variety of mega corporations.

All the votes he got were Anti-Dems not Pro-Walker.

He was/is the worst candidate ever!
(OK slight exaggeration.)

Before everyone knew about his past/his behavior off field he was well respected and a “hero”.

He was an idiot to run in the first place knowing his history he should’ve expected it to surface.

You're assigning unrealistic expectations to a guy who appears to have an IQ of four. The guy got a kids' toy badge and thought he was a police officer!

Yet you wanted him to win?

Yes. You can only support a Democrat if you support Biden and I don't support Biden.

The Democratic Party is a machine party that operates as a hive mind. All of the underlings are obligated to follow the orders of the Leader.

See this chart: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/bi ... ess-votes/

Anyone who says "I don't support Biden, but I'm voting for a Democrat for XYZ office" is simply deluded. Any vote for any Democrat is a vote for Biden due to the aforementioned.

[jimboston]

Yes. You can only support a Democrat if you support Biden and I don't support Biden.

The Democratic Party is a machine party that operates as a hive mind. All of the underlings are obligated to follow the orders of the Leader.

See this chart: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/bi ... ess-votes/

Anyone who says "I don't support Biden, but I'm voting for a Democrat for XYZ office" is simply deluded. Any vote for any Democrat is a vote for Biden due to the aforementioned.

Joe Manchin would disagree.

[mookiemcgee]

And Georgia just rejected the brain-damaged immoral carpet-bagger that Trump begged to run.

Walker has LOTS of connections to Georgia.

I think that the wrong term is used here, Walker is not a carpet-bagger.

plural noun: carpetbaggers

a political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections.
HISTORICAL
(in the US) a person from the northern states who went to the South after the Civil War to profit from the Reconstruction.

Herschel Walker is more of a scalawag (BUT he is not white) and was born and raised in Georgia

plural noun: scalawags
a person who behaves badly but in an amusingly mischievous rather than harmful way; a rascal.
US
a white Southerner who collaborated with northern Republicans during Reconstruction, often for personal profit. The term was used derisively by white Southern Democrats who opposed Reconstruction legislation.

Early life
Walker was born in Augusta, Georgia, to Willis and Christine Walker. He was raised in Wrightsville, Georgia.[3] He was one of seven children. Walker said that as a child he was overweight and had a stutter.[4][5]

High school career
Walker attended Johnson County High School in Wrightsville, where he played football, basketball, and competed in track. He played for the Johnson County Trojans high school football team from 1976 to 1979. In his senior year, he rushed for 3,167 yards, helping the Trojans win their first state championship

The problem with Walker is that Trump tried to use the "Trump formula" for a political candidate. Take a famous personality and try to make them a viable political candidate when they have ALMOST zero political experience. The voters of GA and PA both rejected that type of candidate for US Senate. I think that any candidate for the US Senate needs more experience and knowledge of politics. Both set of voters in both states seem to agree with me.

Now it seems that Warnock has little experience (in actual office), but was involved in Politics before running for Senate:

Raphael Gamaliel Warnock[1] (/ˈrɑːfiɛl ˈwɔːrnɒk/ RAH-fee-el WOR-nok; born July 23, 1969) is an American Baptist pastor and politician serving as the junior United States senator from Georgia since 2021. A member of the Democratic Party, he assumed office on January 20, 2021.[2][3]

Since 2005, Warnock has been the senior pastor of Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church.[4][5] He was the senior pastor of Douglas Memorial Community Church until 2005.[6] Warnock came to prominence in Georgia politics as a leading activist in the campaign to expand Medicaid in the state under the Affordable Care Act.

On January 30, 2020, Warnock announced his candidacy in Georgia's 2020 United States Senate special election, seeking to unseat incumbent Republican Kelly Loeffler.[7]

Warnock came to prominence in Georgia politics as a leader in the campaign to expand Medicaid in the state.[49] In March 2014, Warnock led a sit-in at the Georgia State Capitol to press state legislators to accept the expansion of Medicaid offered by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.[50][51] He and other leaders were arrested during the protest.[50][52] Warnock also actively campaigned for Georgia Democrats to increase outreach to low-income communities.[53] In 2015, Warnock considered running in the 2016 election for the United States Senate seat held by Johnny Isakson as a member of the Democratic Party.[54] He opted not to run.[55][56]

From June 2017 to January 2020, Warnock chaired the New Georgia Project, a nonpartisan organization focused on increasing voter registration.[57][39]

Warnock supports expanding the Affordable Care Act and has called for the passage of the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.[58][49] He also supports increasing COVID-19-relief funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Warnock#Political_activism

I think that's fair. Dr Oz was a more accurate example of a carpet bagger.

[jusplay4fun]

And Georgia just rejected the brain-damaged immoral carpet-bagger that Trump begged to run.

Walker has LOTS of connections to Georgia.

I think that the wrong term is used here, Walker is not a carpet-bagger.

plural noun: carpetbaggers

a political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections.
HISTORICAL
(in the US) a person from the northern states who went to the South after the Civil War to profit from the Reconstruction.

Herschel Walker is more of a scalawag (BUT he is not white) and was born and raised in Georgia

plural noun: scalawags
a person who behaves badly but in an amusingly mischievous rather than harmful way; a rascal.
US
a white Southerner who collaborated with northern Republicans during Reconstruction, often for personal profit. The term was used derisively by white Southern Democrats who opposed Reconstruction legislation.

Early life
Walker was born in Augusta, Georgia, to Willis and Christine Walker. He was raised in Wrightsville, Georgia.[3] He was one of seven children. Walker said that as a child he was overweight and had a stutter.[4][5]

High school career
Walker attended Johnson County High School in Wrightsville, where he played football, basketball, and competed in track. He played for the Johnson County Trojans high school football team from 1976 to 1979. In his senior year, he rushed for 3,167 yards, helping the Trojans win their first state championship

The problem with Walker is that Trump tried to use the "Trump formula" for a political candidate. Take a famous personality and try to make them a viable political candidate when they have ALMOST zero political experience. The voters of GA and PA both rejected that type of candidate for US Senate. I think that any candidate for the US Senate needs more experience and knowledge of politics. Both set of voters in both states seem to agree with me.

Now it seems that Warnock has little experience (in actual office), but was involved in Politics before running for Senate:

Raphael Gamaliel Warnock[1] (/ˈrɑːfiɛl ˈwɔːrnɒk/ RAH-fee-el WOR-nok; born July 23, 1969) is an American Baptist pastor and politician serving as the junior United States senator from Georgia since 2021. A member of the Democratic Party, he assumed office on January 20, 2021.[2][3]

Since 2005, Warnock has been the senior pastor of Atlanta's Ebenezer Baptist Church.[4][5] He was the senior pastor of Douglas Memorial Community Church until 2005.[6] Warnock came to prominence in Georgia politics as a leading activist in the campaign to expand Medicaid in the state under the Affordable Care Act.

On January 30, 2020, Warnock announced his candidacy in Georgia's 2020 United States Senate special election, seeking to unseat incumbent Republican Kelly Loeffler.[7]

Warnock came to prominence in Georgia politics as a leader in the campaign to expand Medicaid in the state.[49] In March 2014, Warnock led a sit-in at the Georgia State Capitol to press state legislators to accept the expansion of Medicaid offered by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.[50][51] He and other leaders were arrested during the protest.[50][52] Warnock also actively campaigned for Georgia Democrats to increase outreach to low-income communities.[53] In 2015, Warnock considered running in the 2016 election for the United States Senate seat held by Johnny Isakson as a member of the Democratic Party.[54] He opted not to run.[55][56]

From June 2017 to January 2020, Warnock chaired the New Georgia Project, a nonpartisan organization focused on increasing voter registration.[57][39]

Warnock supports expanding the Affordable Care Act and has called for the passage of the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.[58][49] He also supports increasing COVID-19-relief funding

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphael_Warnock#Political_activism

I think that's fair. Dr Oz was a more accurate example of a carpet bagger.

I agree, Mookie. I think that I already posted that:

If the Republicans could not WIN MORE with an unpopular US President, high inflation (blamed on President Biden), rising gasoline prices, and rising crime (as well as a broken US-Mexico border) then things do not look good for the future for many Republican candidates.

ONE APPARENT reason for the poor result for Republicans is that Democrats were motivated to reject the specter of Trump returning. The fact that Trump backed bad candidates (such as Dr. Oz) also did him NO FAVORS. Trump thinks that his formula, a TV personality pushing a few issues, did not work in Pennsylvania. I think Dr. Oz has a very impressive resume, BUT he was viewed by many in PA as a "carpetbagger" an OUTSIDER who does not really belong in nor "get" and truly understand many of those in PA.

carpetbaggers definition:

a political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections.
HISTORICAL
(in the US) a person from the northern states who went to the South after the Civil War to profit from the Reconstruction.
a person perceived as an unscrupulous opportunist.
"the organization is rife with carpetbaggers"

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=237728&p=5265061#p5265061