Sept(9)--11...23rd Ann. Remember America!!!!

[ConfederateSS]

-------- September (9) ---11...23rd Anniversary... Remember America ...
----------1,000's of Americans have died from cancer caused by the gases and debris they inhaled on 9/11...
---------- Let's see if Sleepy Joe can find his way off the beach...Make it to the 9/11 Ceremony this year...Last year he was the only President to miss the 9/11 memorial ceremony....To busy ...
----------- Another time East and West ment on 9/11...Was the Great Siege of Malta...On May 18th ,1565 A.D...40,000 Turks(Ottoman Empire) attacked Malta....700 Knights of St. John The Baptist (The Last Crusaders)...Fought them...On September 11th, 1565 A.D....The Knights (Of GOD)...700, defeated them(a long with about 8,000 Maltese helping, with supplies, fighting, etc.).... forcing the Turks to flee....40,000 vs 700...Proof of GOD... ...
---------- The Maltese have never forgotten their massive Victory... Saving the EAST...from the WEST...
---------- Unfortunately not America....I remember, on the 10th Anniversary of 9/11....I told my daughters...I have newspapers (Detroit News and Free Press)...from September 12th...They could have them for a report if they needed them...The said , what are you talking about???...I said, September 11th...The attack...They said , not doing a report, no one has said anything at school....I don't even want to say how I felt... That's The American Educational System...WOW ...Also A President of America...Biden...Last Year...
--------- Alot different today on Malta...They all know about their Greatest Victory ...459 years ago ...Sad, America,Biden, real Sad... .......
-----------GOD BLESS ALL WHO HAVE SUFFERED AND STILL SUFFERING, FROM 9/11...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[Votanic]

When people remember 9/11, at least 90% of those memories focus on the World Trade Center, maybe 9% on the Pentagon, and barely 1% on Flight 93 that crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.
But of those 3 catastrophes, Flight 93 holds the most important lesson: FIGHTING BACK AND NEVER SURRENDERING!!!
In the long run, compromised peace will destroy far more than a rightous WAR.

[jusplay4fun]

When people remember 9/11, at least 90% of those memories focus on the World Trade Center, maybe 9% on the Pentagon, and barely 1% on Flight 93 that crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.
But of those 3 catastrophes, Flight 93 holds the most important lesson: FIGHTING BACK AND NEVER SURRENDERING!!!
In the long run, compromised peace will destroy far more than a rightous WAR.

All four planes and their consequence are of course important. NYC and WTC get most of the attention, given that NYC is the and was the media center. Not as many died at the Pentagon and the damage was not as spectacular and dramatic; and sometimes, the PA crash gets overlooked. I remember all 4 events very clearly.

There were many acts of bravery during those days on 9/11 and its aftermath.

[jusplay4fun]

-------- September (9) ---11...23rd Anniversary... Remember America [/size]...
----------1,000's of Americans have died from cancer caused by the gases and debris they inhaled on 9/11...
---------- Let's see if Sleepy Joe can find his way off the beach...Make it to the 9/11 Ceremony this year...Last year he was the only President to miss the 9/11 memorial ceremony....To busy ...
----------- Another time East and West ment on 9/11...Was the Great Siege of Malta...On May 18th ,1565 A.D...40,000 Turks(Ottoman Empire) attacked Malta....700 Knights of St. John The Baptist (The Last Crusaders)...Fought them...On September 11th, 1565 A.D....The Knights (Of GOD)...700, defeated them(a long with about 8,000 Maltese helping, with supplies, fighting, etc.).... forcing the Turks to flee....40,000 vs 700...Proof of GOD... ...
---------- The Maltese have never forgotten their massive Victory... Saving the EAST...from the WEST...
---------- Unfortunately not America....I remember, on the 10th Anniversary of 9/11....I told my daughters...I have newspapers (Detroit News and Free Press)...from September 12th...They could have them for a report if they needed them...The said , what are you talking about???...I said, September 11th...The attack...They said , not doing a report, no one has said anything at school....I don't even want to say how I felt... That's The American Educational System...WOW ...Also A President of America...Biden...Last Year...
--------- Alot different today on Malta...They all know about their Greatest Victory ...459 years ago ...Sad, America,Biden, real Sad... ...[/size]....
-----------GOD BLESS ALL WHO HAVE SUFFERED AND STILL SUFFERING, FROM 9/11...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

Let's focus on Malta:

The Great Siege of Malta (Maltese: L-Assedju l-Kbir) occurred in 1565 when the Ottoman Empire attempted to conquer the island of Malta, then held by the Knights Hospitaller. The siege lasted nearly four months, from 18 May to 8 September 1565.

The Knights Hospitaller had been headquartered in Malta since 1530, after being driven out of Rhodes, also by the Ottomans, in 1522, following the siege of Rhodes. The Ottomans first attempted to take Malta in 1551 but failed. In 1565, Suleiman the Magnificent, the Ottoman Sultan, made a second attempt to take Malta. The Knights, who numbered around 500 together with approximately 6,000 footsoldiers, withstood the siege and repelled the invaders.

This victory became one of the most celebrated events of sixteenth-century Europe, to the point that Voltaire said: "Nothing is better known than the siege of Malta." It undoubtedly contributed to the eventual erosion of the European perception of Ottoman invincibility, although the Mediterranean continued to be contested between Christian coalitions and the Muslim Turks for many years.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Siege_of_Malta

This source was a bit vague on specific dates:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hospitallers

[Votanic]

When people remember 9/11, at least 90% of those memories focus on the World Trade Center, maybe 9% on the Pentagon, and barely 1% on Flight 93 that crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.
But of those 3 catastrophes, Flight 93 holds the most important lesson: FIGHTING BACK AND NEVER SURRENDERING!!!
In the long run, compromised peace will destroy far more than a rightous WAR.

All four planes and their consequence are of course important. NYC and WTC get most of the attention, given that NYC is the and was the media center. Not as many died at the Pentagon and the damage was not as spectacular and dramatic; and sometimes, the PA crash gets overlooked. I remember all 4 events very clearly.

There were many acts of bravery during those days on 9/11 and its aftermath.

jus''', you totally missed the point, ...as usual.
The point is ALL FOUR PLANES could have ended like Flight 93, with only a faction of the death and destruction, or even possibly, NOT CRASHED AT ALL!
If the passengers has attacked the hijackers en masse, instead of just sitting there like scared sheep!

[mookiemcgee]

instead of just sitting there like scared sheep!

It's a little distasteful especially today, to suggest the victims aboard the three other planes were 'scared sheep', but to each their own.

I'd imagine it's pretty easy to write crap like this in between rounds of Call of Duty waiting for your mom to bring you more chicken tenders.

[saxitoxin]

Hunter S. Thompson on September 12 ...



I can never vote for a candidate endorsed by Dick Cheney.

[HitRed]

Captain Bill Tote on 9/11 Pentagon

[Votanic]

instead of just sitting there like scared sheep!

It's a little distasteful especially today, to suggest the victims aboard the three other planes were 'scared sheep', but to each their own.

I'd imagine it's pretty easy to write crap like this in between rounds of Call of Duty waiting for your mom to bring you more chicken tenders.

It's pretty distasteful to dismiss the heroism of Flight 93, but then it was only one plane out of four, and somebody like you would find it easier to coddle and appease the masses (and then call it democracy), ...while slopped up on overpiced rotten grape juice and trying to con people into buying Bitcrap, ...but then again..., just maybe..., Fortune really DOES favor the Brave.

[mookiemcgee]

I missed the part where i dismissed anyone heroism besides your own

[Votanic]

I missed the part where i dismissed anyone heroism besides your own

When the terrorists take the plane, FIGHT THE TERRORISTS.
Don't jus tworry-call 'loved ones' and tell them you're "concerned but staying brave".

[jusplay4fun]

When people remember 9/11, at least 90% of those memories focus on the World Trade Center, maybe 9% on the Pentagon, and barely 1% on Flight 93 that crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.
But of those 3 catastrophes, Flight 93 holds the most important lesson: FIGHTING BACK AND NEVER SURRENDERING!!!
In the long run, compromised peace will destroy far more than a rightous WAR.

All four planes and their consequence are of course important. NYC and WTC get most of the attention, given that NYC is the and was the media center. Not as many died at the Pentagon and the damage was not as spectacular and dramatic; and sometimes, the PA crash gets overlooked. I remember all 4 events very clearly.

There were many acts of bravery during those days on 9/11 and its aftermath.

jus''', you totally missed the point, ...as usual.
The point is ALL FOUR PLANES could have ended like Flight 93, with only a faction of the death and destruction, or even possibly, NOT CRASHED AT ALL!
If the passengers has attacked the hijackers en masse, instead of just sitting there like scared sheep!

No, Vot, you missed the point. Before 9/11, the MO was to allow the hijackers to take the plane to their desired location (usually Cuba) and the plane, passengers and crew were released to the USA. So that was how the first 3 flights were handled by crew and passengers. NO ONE had done ANYTHING like this before 9/11, intentionally flying aircraft into buildings to kill so MANY. Flight 93 passengers KNEW of the other 3 flights via cell phones. That flight also had (as I recall) only 4 hijackers and not 5, so was "undermanned" by the hijackers. The flight had time for passengers to 1) comprehend the situation ACCURATELY, 2) develop an attack Plan, and 3) execute an attempt to overwhelm hijackers, at least to cause a crash into the ground and not to its intended target.

The situation on 9/11 was organic and evolved over the 4 flights. President G.W. Bush did basically NOTHING on the first plane colliding into the WTC. He left the school on #2, BUT he was NOT allowed to land for a long time as the Government tried to decide what to do to this NEW situation. ALL this was a NEW Security threat. Learn your History, Vot, before you make such an incorrect assessment of what happened.

As usual, I got the FACTS right.

[Votanic]

When people remember 9/11, at least 90% of those memories focus on the World Trade Center, maybe 9% on the Pentagon, and barely 1% on Flight 93 that crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.
But of those 3 catastrophes, Flight 93 holds the most important lesson: FIGHTING BACK AND NEVER SURRENDERING!!!
In the long run, compromised peace will destroy far more than a rightous WAR.

All four planes and their consequence are of course important. NYC and WTC get most of the attention, given that NYC is the and was the media center. Not as many died at the Pentagon and the damage was not as spectacular and dramatic; and sometimes, the PA crash gets overlooked. I remember all 4 events very clearly.

There were many acts of bravery during those days on 9/11 and its aftermath.

jus''', you totally missed the point, ...as usual.
The point is ALL FOUR PLANES could have ended like Flight 93, with only a faction of the death and destruction, or even possibly, NOT CRASHED AT ALL!
If the passengers has attacked the hijackers en masse, instead of just sitting there like scared sheep!

No, Vot, you missed the point. Before 9/11, the MO was to allow the hijackers to take the plane to their desired location (usually Cuba) and the plane, passengers and crew were released to the USA. So that was how the first 3 flights were handled by crew and passengers. NO ONE had done ANYTHING like this before 9/11, intentionally flying aircraft into buildings to kill so MANY. Flight 93 passengers KNEW of the other 3 flights via cell phones. That flight also had (as I recall) only 4 hijackers and not 5, so was "undermanned" by the hijackers. The flight had time for passengers to 1) comprehend the situation ACCURATELY, 2) develop an attack Plan, and 3) execute an attempt to overwhelm hijackers, at least to cause a crash into the ground and not to its intended target.

The situation on 9/11 was organic and evolved over the 4 flights. President G.W. Bush did basically NOTHING on the first plane colliding into the WTC. He left the school on #2, BUT he was NOT allowed to land for a long time as the Government tried to decide what to do to this NEW situation. ALL this was a NEW Security threat. Learn your History, Vot, before you make such an incorrect assessment of what happened.

As usual, I got the FACTS right.

Regardless, the point is what Flight 93 did was RIGHT and CORRECT. The other flights' passengers were living in bubbles of fantasy and complacency. Maybe if even just one forward-thinking passenger was present to start a riot, the situation could have ended relatively much better.
If terrorists KNEW that everytime they tried to hijack a plane, the passengers would rise up like. a pack of rabid pit-bulls, they would never tr yit. That goes for crash-terrorists and transport-diversion-terrorists.

A moderated (or 'harm-reduction') response is often not sufficent to properly act as a deterent. Look at our nations current pitiful response to drug crime (fentanyl, reefer madness, etc.) or crime in general (out of control, especially Blue State property crime).



SIDEBAR: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240911-911s-long-legacy-how-the-dust-and-smoke-from-the-twin-towers-attacks-is-still-claiming-lives
Consider also adding these 'victims to the 9/11 casualty total.
Though to be fair, such determinations of causality owe more to politics and payouts, than science or math.

[jusplay4fun]

When people remember 9/11, at least 90% of those memories focus on the World Trade Center, maybe 9% on the Pentagon, and barely 1% on Flight 93 that crashed in a field in rural Pennsylvania.
But of those 3 catastrophes, Flight 93 holds the most important lesson: FIGHTING BACK AND NEVER SURRENDERING!!!
In the long run, compromised peace will destroy far more than a rightous WAR.

All four planes and their consequence are of course important. NYC and WTC get most of the attention, given that NYC is the and was the media center. Not as many died at the Pentagon and the damage was not as spectacular and dramatic; and sometimes, the PA crash gets overlooked. I remember all 4 events very clearly.

There were many acts of bravery during those days on 9/11 and its aftermath.

jus''', you totally missed the point, ...as usual.
The point is ALL FOUR PLANES could have ended like Flight 93, with only a faction of the death and destruction, or even possibly, NOT CRASHED AT ALL!
If the passengers has attacked the hijackers en masse, instead of just sitting there like scared sheep!

No, Vot, you missed the point. Before 9/11, the MO was to allow the hijackers to take the plane to their desired location (usually Cuba) and the plane, passengers and crew were released to the USA. So that was how the first 3 flights were handled by crew and passengers. NO ONE had done ANYTHING like this before 9/11, intentionally flying aircraft into buildings to kill so MANY. Flight 93 passengers KNEW of the other 3 flights via cell phones. That flight also had (as I recall) only 4 hijackers and not 5, so was "undermanned" by the hijackers. The flight had time for passengers to 1) comprehend the situation ACCURATELY, 2) develop an attack Plan, and 3) execute an attempt to overwhelm hijackers, at least to cause a crash into the ground and not to its intended target.

The situation on 9/11 was organic and evolved over the 4 flights. President G.W. Bush did basically NOTHING on the first plane colliding into the WTC. He left the school on #2, BUT he was NOT allowed to land for a long time as the Government tried to decide what to do to this NEW situation. ALL this was a NEW Security threat. Learn your History, Vot, before you make such an incorrect assessment of what happened.

As usual, I got the FACTS right.

Regardless, the point is what Flight 93 did was RIGHT and CORRECT. The other flights' passengers were living in bubbles of fantasy and complacency. Maybe if even just one forward-thinking passenger was present to start a riot, the situation could have ended relatively much better.
If terrorists KNEW that everytime they tried to hijack a plane, the passengers would rise up like. a pack of rabid pit-bulls, they would never tr yit. That goes for crash-terrorists and transport-diversion-terrorists.

A moderated (or 'harm-reduction') response is often not sufficent to properly act as a deterent. Look at our nations current pitiful response to drug crime (fentanyl, reefer madness, etc.) or crime in general (out of control, especially Blue State property crime).



SIDEBAR: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240911-911s-long-legacy-how-the-dust-and-smoke-from-the-twin-towers-attacks-is-still-claiming-lives
Consider also adding these 'victims to the 9/11 casualty total.
Though to be fair, such determinations of causality owe more to politics and payouts, than science or math.

Vot, you fail to acknowledge:
1) The evolving nature of the situation, especially in that Flight 93 knew what happened a bit earlier at WTC in NYC and the Pentagon. They knew that they were likely to die, especially if they did nothing.
2) That you are wrong, or at the least, did not consider #1 above.

The damage, illness, and death to persons working at the site (Ground Zero) has been acknowledged and Congress has passed a bill (signed into law) to compensate those First Responders whose health was badly damaged by working at the site.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/benefits/2024/09/after-a-long-wait-federal-benefits-for-more-9-11-first-responders/

Benefits
After a long wait, federal benefits for more 9/11 first responders

It’s taken a generation, but now federal benefits have become available for first responders harmed during the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. The money was authorized in last year’s National Defense Authorization bill.

https://www.vcf.gov/

https://info.wtc-illness.com/vcf/en/src1/s1/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=vcf&utm_term=911%20first%20responders&utm_campaign=9/11_Zadroga_VCF_-_USA_-_EN_-_SE&utm_adgroup=911_first__responders&kw=911%20first%20responders&cpn=21321587663&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7orFprW9iAMVA2dHAR3_4gySEAAYASAAEgKbpfD_BwE