GabonX wrote:saxitoxin wrote:DaGip wrote:BoganGod wrote:notyou2 wrote:I'm colour blind.
I suspected you of necrofelching(a practise generally reserved for darkness where colour vision is not important). I was wrong, your a necro bumper not felcher. Congrats
I thought about Necrobumping this thread too. The debate of Jews being a race or a religion needs to be answered damnit!
According to 2012 research by Eran Elhaik, a geneticist at Johns Hopkins University, Jews were an ancient people who lived in the Levant and are now totally and completely extinct and do not exist anymore (a few hundred Antique Jews may still exist among the
Samaritans who practice the original pagan version of Judaism as it existed prior to the god of agriculture, Yahweh, being proclaimed "the one true God" as a result of an inter-sect dispute).
http://gbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/5/1/75.fullThe religion commonly practiced by this extinct people was subsequently aped by a group of Turks who lived in southern Russia in the 800s, who are the ancestors of persons currently self-identifying as "Jews" (kinda like Boston Celtics captain Rajon Rondo; he wears green and clovers and leprechauns but he's not actually a member of an Iron Age North Sea tribe - that's just the theme his team decided to use for fun). Another book that advances a theory similar to Elhaik's is "
The Invention of the Jewish People" by Shlomo Sand, a professor of history at Tel Aviv University.
Rajon Rondo - not literally Celtic
This is just another example of Saxitoxin being willing to say anything to promote his strain of anti Zionist antisemitism. The often cited
white supremacist straw man that
Zionism is a racial movement, Jews are not a race, and this somehow invalidates Zionism holds no water as neither premise is true.
That is to say that DNA evidence indicates that most Jews do share a common genetic lineage originating from the Levant, but that this is irrelevant as Zionism was never intended as a racial movement.
A study conducted in 2013 refutes any indication of Khazar origin and suggests that " Ashkenazi Jews share the greatest genetic ancestry with other Jewish populations, and among non-Jewish populations, with groups from Europe and the Middle East. No particular similarity of Ashkenazi Jews with populations from the Caucasus is evident, particularly with the populations that most closely represent the Khazar region. Thus, analysis of Ashkenazi Jews together with a large sample from the region of the Khazar Khaganate corroborates the earlier results that Ashkenazi Jews derive their ancestry primarily from populations of the Middle East and Europe, that they possess considerable shared ancestry with other Jewish populations, and that there is no indication of a significant genetic contribution either from within or from north of the Caucasus region."[9]
Studies of autosomal DNA, which look at the entire DNA mixture, have become increasingly important as the technology develops. They show that Jewish populations have tended to form relatively closely related groups in independent communities, with most in a community sharing significant ancestry in common.[15] For Jewish populations of the diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations show a predominant amount of shared Middle Eastern ancestry. According to Behar, the most parsimonious explanation for this shared Middle Eastern ancestry is that it is "consistent with the historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelite residents of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".[16] North African, Italian and others of Iberian origin show variable frequencies of admixture with non-Jewish historical host populations among the maternal lines. In the case of Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews (in particular Moroccan Jews), who are apparently closely related, the non-Jewish component is mainly southern European. Behar et al. have remarked on an especially close relationship to modern Italians.[17][18] The studies show that the Bene Israel and Black Cochin Jews of India, Beta Israel of Ethiopia, and a portion of the Lemba people of southern Africa, while more closely resembling the local populations of their native countries, have some ancient Jewish descent.[13][19][20][21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews
So no, Jews are not a "pure race" but they do tend to have a common, albeit deluded lineage. Of course the concept of race is irrelevant in Zionism as
Theodore Herzel envisioned Israel as a haven for Jews to be free of antisemitism regardless of their racial origins.
The study to which
you're referring was conducted by Yeshiva University, a Orthodox Jewish bible college.
Did you not know that or did you make the choice to omit it from your screed to try to make it seem more credible? Note that this is how dishonest Gabby is and the kind of misinformation he's selling. You can't trust him. (I laughed that you did a "search" on Stormfront and found an anonymous poster there happened to mention it [let's not kid ourselves, you're the Stormfront poster, right?] and now are trying to use that to debunk a study published in the MEDLINE-indexed, peer-reviewed
Journal of Genome Biology and Evolution while grandstanding a non-reviewed study published by a bible college.)
I'm not a DNA expert and I don't pretend to be. I do believe I am able to make a judgment, however, about who is most qualified to make these kind of observations. And I choose Johns Hopkins University over "Yeshiva University" bible college. Schlomo Sand, the bestselling author of "The Invention of the Jewish People" and professor at Tel Aviv University, (whom I previously mentioned but you chose to ignore) has this to say about your Bible DNA study, Gabby:
Oh, GabonX. Will you ever stop relying on bible prophecy websites for information? Also, why do you love Hitler so much?
(and that was called Hitlerite by Schlomo Sand). 
