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Whac a Conqueror (FULL)

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:19 pm

Well this is a tournament I've always wanted to made but first I had be conqueror.
This is inspired in the Whac a chanakam tourney held by chanakam2020 last year.

Number of players : 15 (Premium players only) + me

So you think you can beat the conqueror? Come on and prove it.

I'm not giving points for free but I'm also not gonna play only on my maps. So I'm gonna be facing the 15 players that sign up in 5 maps each all games at the same time.
3 maps and settings will be of my choice, 1 map will be random and the last one will be of your choice as long as it's polymorphic. All games will have a 20 round limit and 24hrs turns.

Maps and Settings:
Spanish Armada
Players Per Game: 2
Game Type: Poly 2
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: No Spoils
Reinforcements: Adjacent
Weather: Fog
Trench: No
Round Limit: 20
Round Length: 24 Hours

Das Schloss
Players Per Game: 2
Game Type: Poly 3
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: Escalating
Reinforcements: Chained
Weather: Fog
Trench: No
Round Limit: 20
Round Length: 24 Hours

Hive
Players Per Game: 2
Game Type: Poly 4
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: Nuclear
Reinforcements: Unlimited
Weather: Sunny
Trench: No
Round Limit: 20
Round Length: 24 Hours

Random
Players Per Game: 2
Game Type: Poly 3
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: No Spoils
Reinforcements: Chained
Weather: Fog
Trench: No
Round Limit: 20
Round Length: 24 Hours

Tournament format :
Each player will play 5 games against me. One game on each map with given settings.
I will play total of 75 games. 5 games each with all other players.
All 75 games will start at same time.
If I win 50 or more games (2/3 of total games I play), +plus If I win at least one game against all 15 players, then I will be the winner of tournament.
If I failed to win at least 50 games, or if some one beat me 5-0 then I am whacked and, to choose tournament winner the player who whacked me (Who win 3 or more games out of 5) will have to fight each other on tiebreaker games.

Tiebreaker games
The players who whacked me (Who win 3 or more games out of 5) will face each other in the best of 3 with the map of their choice when signing and a random map same settings as the one played against me.

To sign up select the map and settigns of your choice. Let's have fun everyone.

This tournament has been sponsored
Lindax wrote:The Tournament Dept offers the following extra prizes:

1200 Credits for the winner, if they beat the TO.

A General Achievement Medal for the first player who beats the TO on all 5 maps.

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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Wed Mar 19, 2025 7:19 pm

Players and Maps

1. xroads - Age of Merchants - Chained, Sunny, Trench, Nuclear - Poly 2
2. j1mathman - City Mogul - Chained, Fog, Escalating - Poly 2
3. justplay4fun - City Mogul - Chained, Fog, Escalating - Poly 2
4. josko.ri - Hive - Unlimited, Sunny, Zombie - Poly 3
5. Son!c - Salem's Switch - No Reinforcement - Fog, No Spoils - Poly 2
6. theflycassanova - Philadelphia - Chained, Fog, Trench, No Spoils - Poly 4
7. Gematria - Feudal Epic - Chained, Sunny, Escalating - Poly 4
8. chanakam2020 - The Temple of Jinn - Parachute, Fog, Escalating - Poly 3
9. Zorro134 - Stalingrad - Chained, Fog, Trench, No Spoils - Poly 2
10. Kambodia - France 2.1 -Adjacent, Fog, Trench, No Spoils - Poly 4
11. theelkspeaks - Europe 1914 - Chained, Fog, Trench, Flat Rate - Poly 2
12. Devante - King's Court II - Chained, Fog, Trench, No Spoils - Poly 3
13. Bada0Bing - Trafalaxy - Chained, Fog, Trench, Flat Rate - Poly 4
14. General Cod - 1982 - Chained, Fog, Trench, No Spoils - Poly 2
15. Clanlord Carl - Waterloo - Chained, Fog, No Spoils - Poly 4
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby xroads on Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:19 pm

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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby j1mathman on Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:46 pm

I'll take a whac

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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:37 am

I'll take a whac, too; IN, please.

Home Map: City Mogul, Poly(2), chain, esc, fog (ALSO)

It is not every day I get a chance to whac a Conqueror.

Thanks, T-Law.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby josko.ri on Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:12 pm

Lets see who is hive Master, I have score 135-20 in hive (4) and 27-2 in hive (3) unlimited. As you selected hive (4), my map is hive (3).

Hive
Players Per Game: 2
Game Type: Poly 3
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: Zombie
Reinforcements: Unlimited
Weather: Sunny
Trench: No
Round Limit: 20
Round Length: 24 Hours

Also your setup has flaw, if you win all games 3-2 (or a few games 4-1 or 5-0) then neither will you be tournament winner nor Any of players.

Also, what is harder achievement, that you win 67% matches while playing 3 of 5 games on your home map and while some of opponents will be clueless on how to play them, or that Any of players win 60% matches against a conqueror with 3 of his home maps? Obviously much harder is that a player wins 60%. Yet, 67% for you Grants the title (it is not realistically that some one will beat you 5-0 with 3 your home maps) whereas 60% for a player only gives him chance for tiebreaker if you dont achieve 67% and if other players beat you with 60% or more. Having 67% wins by yourself is not that hard given that you play 60% home maps And that some of your opponents will be clueless how to play them.

I propose much better format without flaws: in round 1, you eliminate everyone whom you beat 3-2 or more. Players who beat you 3-2 or bigger enter into final round where you play 6 New games, 5 from round 1 and one more radom map, to have Best-of-11. That way you get second chance to beat them head-ti-head. In total, you only Need to win home maps (3 in round 1 or 6 in rounds 1 and 2) to win the tournament, and if you lose some home map then you can still win if you grad random or opponents map. If two or more players beat you in best-of-11 over two rounds then They play tiebtreakers among themselves. With this proposal, good players compete for the tournament title on their own, so the tournament winner will not based on whether will you beat mediocre players with 5-0 or 3-2 result.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:38 pm

josko.ri wrote:Lets see who is hive Master, I have score 135-20 in hive (4) and 27-2 in hive (3) unlimited. As you selected hive (4), my map is hive (3).

Hive
Players Per Game: 2
Game Type: Poly 3
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: Zombie
Reinforcements: Unlimited
Weather: Sunny
Trench: No
Round Limit: 50
Round Length: 24 Hours

Also your setup has flaw, if you win all games 3-2 (or a few games 4-1 or 5-0) then neither will you be tournament winner nor Any of players.

Also, what is harder achievement, that you win 67% matches while playing 3 of 5 games on your home map and while some of opponents will be clueless on how to play them, or that Any of players win 60% matches against a conqueror with 3 of his home maps? Obviously much harder is that a player wins 60%. Yet, 67% for you Grants the title (it is not realistically that some one will beat you 5-0 with 3 your home maps) whereas 60% for a player only gives him chance for tiebreaker if you dont achieve 67% and if other players beat you with 60% or more. Having 67% wins by yourself is not that hard given that you play 60% home maps And that some of your opponents will be clueless how to play them.

I propose much better format without flaws: in round 1, you eliminate everyone whom you beat 3-2 or more. Players who beat you 3-2 or bigger enter into final round where you play 6 New games, 5 from round 1 and one more radom map, to have Best-of-11. That way you get second chance to beat them head-ti-head. In total, you only Need to win home maps (3 in round 1 or 6 in rounds 1 and 2) to win the tournament, and if you lose some home map then you can still win if you grad random or opponents map. If two or more players beat you in best-of-11 over two rounds then They play tiebtreakers among themselves. With this proposal, good players compete for the tournament title on their own, so the tournament winner will not based on whether will you beat mediocre players with 5-0 or 3-2 result.


I had not seen that I copy-pasted the numbers as chanakam had them on his torunament. I assumed the 50-total would be to make it harder than just win the home maps but indeed there could be that case that you mention where there is no winner.

I think that if someone beats me 5-0 deserves to be the winner in R1. But I could do some poll when we have a few more players see what everyone thinks.

Edit - Also will modify the Round limit as the games I have. All will be just 20 round games, I hope there is no issue with that for you home pick.
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby SoN!c on Thu Mar 20, 2025 12:44 pm

I'll make a reservation but i wanna think about the map: conquer rome, waterloo or salem switch!

Not going for spanish armada or CR freestyle in any case!
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby t4mcr53s2 on Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:23 am

bravo trafalgar law for doing this
I dont have the time to challenge now , but would love to see a cc tradition that any champion has to have some sort of tourney with random or away maps as a part ; more exciting to have more people become champions rather than have them only play their favorite maps.
That said here's hopiing you win!
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby theflycassanova on Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:52 am

I definitely want in on this - give me a day or two to decide map :D
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby Gematria74 on Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:10 am

Count me in please.

Map: Feudal Epic
Game Type: Poly 4
Initial Troops: Automatic
Play Order: Sequential
Spoils: Escalating
Reinforcements: Chained
Weather: Sunny
Trench: No
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby chanakam2020 on Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:32 pm

Congratz on becoming Conqueror !!! =D> =D> =D>

Well this is a tournament I've always wanted to made but first I had be conqueror.
This is inspired in the Whac a chanakam tourney held by chanakam2020 last year.

Happy I gave some inspiration . & Sad I could not run that tournament till finish due to health problem.
As I remember I was 4 points short for winning the tourney at round 1 :mrgreen:
Thank you V much shoop76 for rescuing tourney and concluding it.

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I had not seen that I copy-pasted the numbers as chanakam had them on his torunament. I assumed the 50-total would be to make it harder than just win the home maps but indeed there could be that case that you mention where there is no winner.


Those numbers were agreed numbers by tournament director department at that time. My initial proposal was more than 50% of games win for me to win the tourney. But Tournament Directors wanted make it harder for host as in future as if 50% was allowed, players can show it as precedence and will run similar format tournament on their specialized home map , just win 50% games easily and claim a tournament win medal.
(Note : My tourney was not run on my specialized home maps , They were based on a monthly challange settings
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=908&t=239506)

Yes the host winning all sets 3-2 & ending up 45game wins & unwhacked scenario was not seen by me or tournament director team at that time.So better to have some tweak there. ( May be you can decalre me as winner in that scenario for giving inspiration for this tournament format :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
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And In my tourney if some one beat me 5-0 then he is not the straightforward winner. But I am Out
If some one beat me 5-0 then I am whacked even I win 50+ games from other players (I failed to met the condition of winning at least one game against each player).
In that case the one who beat me 5-0 will go to next round together with those who beat me 3-2 or 4-1 (If any such)

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Ok I am in to Whac you

The Temple of Jinn
2 Players
Poly (3)
Escalating
Parachute
Fog
20 Rounds|

Cheers !!!
=D> =D> =D>
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Re: Whac a Conqueror

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:50 pm

chanakam2020 wrote:Congratz on becoming Conqueror !!! =D> =D> =D>

Well this is a tournament I've always wanted to made but first I had be conqueror.
This is inspired in the Whac a chanakam tourney held by chanakam2020 last year.

Happy I gave some inspiration . & Sad I could not run that tournament till finish due to health problem.
As I remember I was 4 points short for winning the tourney at round 1 :mrgreen:
Thank you V much shoop76 for rescuing tourney and concluding it.

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I had not seen that I copy-pasted the numbers as chanakam had them on his torunament. I assumed the 50-total would be to make it harder than just win the home maps but indeed there could be that case that you mention where there is no winner.


Those numbers were agreed numbers by tournament director department at that time. My initial proposal was more than 50% of games win for me to win the tourney. But Tournament Directors wanted make it harder for host as in future as if 50% was allowed, players can show it as precedence and will run similar format tournament on their specialized home map , just win 50% games easily and claim a tournament win medal.
(Note : My tourney was not run on my specialized home maps , They were based on a monthly challange settings
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=908&t=239506)

Yes the host winning all sets 3-2 & ending up 45game wins & unwhacked scenario was not seen by me or tournament director team at that time.So better to have some tweak there. ( May be you can decalre me as winner in that scenario for giving inspiration for this tournament format :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: )
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And In my tourney if some one beat me 5-0 then he is not the straightforward winner. But I am Out
If some one beat me 5-0 then I am whacked even I win 50+ games from other players (I failed to met the condition of winning at least one game against each player).
In that case the one who beat me 5-0 will go to next round together with those who beat me 3-2 or 4-1 (If any such)

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Ok I am in to Whac you

The Temple of Jinn
2 Players
Poly (3)
Escalating
Parachute
Fog
20 Rounds|

Cheers !!!
=D> =D> =D>


Glad to ahve you here :D
And indeed i was really impressed with your results in your toruney being the monthly challange maps (I happened to win that tourney)

I'll try to think some solutions and sent a Pm to participants to see some feedback if the numbers need some changes
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (8/15)

Postby Zorro134 on Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:38 pm

I'm interested if there is space. Stalingrad, poly 2, fog, trench, chained, no spoils
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (9/15)

Postby Kambodia on Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:10 am

If there is space:
France 2.1 - Adjacent, Fog, Trench, No Spoils - Poly 4
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (10/15)

Postby theelkspeaks on Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:33 pm

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Re: Whac a Conqueror (11/15)

Postby xroads on Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:31 am

I cant believe 100+ people didnt sign up for this on day one
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (11/15)

Postby SoN!c on Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:44 am

xroads wrote:I cant believe 100+ people didnt sign up for this on day one


That is because Traf is gonna kick your but when you do. :lol:
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (11/15)

Postby Devante on Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:45 am

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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby Lindax on Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:42 am

The Tournament Dept offers the following extra prizes:

1200 Credits for the winner, if they beat the TO.

A General Achievement Medal for the first player who beats the TO on all 5 maps.

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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby SoN!c on Wed Mar 26, 2025 11:57 am

Okay, going for

Salem's Switch
2 Players
Standard
No Spoils
Sequential
No Reinforcement
Fog
Poly 2

Pity we can only choose one map because to beat Traf at Spanish Armada is mission impossible, and the other two; Hive and Schloss is well you know what to do if you look at previous conqueror's like Josko.

Can we have Conquer Rome instead of the random map? Freestyle is OK if it's not poly :D
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Thu Mar 27, 2025 8:58 pm

SoN!c wrote:Okay, going for

Salem's Switch
2 Players
Standard
No Spoils
Sequential
No Reinforcement
Fog
Poly 2

Pity we can only choose one map because to beat Traf at Spanish Armada is mission impossible, and the other two; Hive and Schloss is well you know what to do if you look at previous conqueror's like Josko.

Can we have Conquer Rome instead of the random map? Freestyle is OK if it's not poly :D


Haha I would be happy to take Rome instead of Random, but not sure it's allowed since it's gonna be randome with everyone else
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby Bada0Bing on Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:24 pm

I'll take a shot.

Trafalaxy: poly 4, flat rate, Fog, Ch, Tr
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (12/15)

Postby general cod on Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:03 pm

1982 fog,trench, no spoils, chained
Good luck with the 75 !
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Re: Whac a Conqueror (14/15)

Postby Clanlord Carl on Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:56 pm

Waterloo, chained, no spoils,fog, poly4
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