Iron Butterfly wrote:(1)I did not like the voting system.) It gave more power to Jonty. He was first to vote on the last day, which made his vote the lynch if there was a tie, which there was. When he voted along with me he sealed the game for himself as the only way to win was for three of us to vote him. It did not help that I did not understand the voting system toll the end and then it was to late.
(2)The problem was that with the set up it really was a guessing game. Jonty was very agreeable with me this game, which i did notice but aside from that he really did nothing scummy. The new guys made all the newbie mistakes to seem scummy.
Having the cop die and no other PRs made it extremely difficult especially with people who have not played before. The new guys were hard to read. (3) Having coaches made it harder because you don't know if they were speaking or their coaches.
(4)If you make another newbie game add more PRs to liven it up.
(1) I don't think the vote system was an issue. It is different, and it is designed to avoid "tie votes for no lynch" I'd say jonty nearly screwed himself with how he voted placing someone at 2 votes, the logic was out there to catch him, and it was presented. (just focusing the wrong person). Now if you did not understand the voting system, then it really isn't the systems fault or the rules fault. Its possible you needed to reread the rules, or ask for clarity since it was something new.
(2) I wouldn't call the set up a guessing game. I'd call it mafia. You can't always depend on the setup to carry you in the game, to expect the "power roles" to be around. The focus was more on trying to learn how to read someone as scum, how to win people to your view on why to lynch person X. Teaching mafia how to blend into the game. As for jonty, i'd say he did a good job of pulling the wool over your eyes. I mean that is a part of the game from a mafia standpoint, to blend in with town. Well I cannot control the level of input of a player, specially one who was active in a coach topic, then failed to post so he was lynched.
(3) I'm fairly certain i provided you with the QT link to your coach. If i did not then it is my fault. (again this could have been cleared up with asking how influential coaches can be). Here is the general guidelines I gave.
Use this thread to talk to your coach about the game. Coaches may not give their opinions about the game. They are here to help you understand and play. How to scum hunt. They are welcome to use previous games to give examples. They are welcome to ask questions why players feel the way they feel about a player in game. If you have any questions as a coach or player on what you may do or not do. Please send me a pm. Enjoy the game!
(4) i'll consider it. I assume the next game will be around 9-12 players. I'll have some options on setups, possible roles etc. Part of why the set up was rolled with 1 mafia power role, and 1 town power role was because it was RNG that way. The set up could have had 3 mafia, with 1 or 2 power roles, and town with 3-4. Just happened to be a very low power role RNG and mafia count.