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Phatscotty wrote:Government central planning is the anti-thesis of Democracy or anything 'Free'
mrswdk wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Government central planning is the anti-thesis of Democracy or anything 'Free'
On the contrary: those citizens are 'free' from the pressure of having to organize everything by themselves. Hooray for central planning!
tzor wrote:There is no flawless system for managing a society.
warmonger1981 wrote:Everything seems to be about social planning. Can a free democracy survive micromanagement geared towards the compartmentalization of society? Does race play a huge role in managing these groups? Does the planning of communities or society eventually lead to serfdom?
warmonger1981 wrote:RE BBS: Planning defined as people or persons as a whole making decisions on behalf of others willingly or not. Humans like to literally micro-manage others through numerous ways. It could be by taxation or education to name a few. The FBI or CIA would be a good example of compartmentalization of information. I just bought the book you stalker.
RE notyou2 I'm about as live and let live kind of guy. That's your yard, this is mine, let's stay on our sides.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Well, planning is necessary, but it depends on the institutional context (i.e. the rules of the game). Firms are essentially little pockets of socialism in the sea of the market. A government within one country which tries to replace the market (a la socialism) is entering a world of pain for its people. Without private property rights, you don't get exchanges. Without the exchanges, you don't get market prices. Without the prices, you don't get efficient decision-making (hence the shortages and surpluses and general waste whenever a state goes full-blown socialism--e.g. Lenin's "war communism" and Mao's mid to late 1950s policies--especially during the agricultural collectivization phase).
Central planning (e.g. within a firm) isn't so bad within a 'sea of markets' though. Sometimes it's too costly too rely on a market order. Imagine having an office supplies market within a firm--instead of having it centrally managed through a bureaucracy. The optimal mix, however, is best discovered through the market order (not by government, which lacks the knowledge and incentives to better solve coordination problems).
So, when it comes to planning, it depends on where it's occurring and why.
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DoomYoshi wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:Well, planning is necessary, but it depends on the institutional context (i.e. the rules of the game). Firms are essentially little pockets of socialism in the sea of the market. A government within one country which tries to replace the market (a la socialism) is entering a world of pain for its people. Without private property rights, you don't get exchanges. Without the exchanges, you don't get market prices. Without the prices, you don't get efficient decision-making (hence the shortages and surpluses and general waste whenever a state goes full-blown socialism--e.g. Lenin's "war communism" and Mao's mid to late 1950s policies--especially during the agricultural collectivization phase).
Central planning (e.g. within a firm) isn't so bad within a 'sea of markets' though. Sometimes it's too costly too rely on a market order. Imagine having an office supplies market within a firm--instead of having it centrally managed through a bureaucracy. The optimal mix, however, is best discovered through the market order (not by government, which lacks the knowledge and incentives to better solve coordination problems).
So, when it comes to planning, it depends on where it's occurring and why.
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DoomYoshi wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Phatscotty wrote:Government central planning is the anti-thesis of Democracy or anything 'Free'
On the contrary: those citizens are 'free' from the pressure of having to organize everything by themselves. Hooray for central planning!
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