Obama Has U.S. Citizen Executed; No Trial Held

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The latest American citizen ordered executed without trial by Obama was a 16 year old from Denver, Colorado. Unlike the last execution of political dissidents Obama ordered, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki was not actually suspected of anything criminal but was executed as sippenhaft (kin liability) - to punish his family - as his father had been denounced by informants of the Obama regime's Secret Police (FBI) of criticizing Israel.

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Here is more on the traditional German judicial practice of sippenhaft:
Sippenhaft or Sippenhaftung was a form of collective punishment practiced in Nazi Germany towards the end of the Second World War. It was a legalized practice in which relatives of persons accused of crimes against the state were held to share the responsibility for those crimes and subject to arrest and sometimes execution. Many people who had committed no crimes were arrested and punished under Sippenhaft laws introduced after the failed July 20 plot to assassinate Adolf Hitler in July 1944. A law of February 1945 also threatened death to the relatives of military commanders who showed what Hitler regarded as cowardice or defeatism in the face of the enemy.

After the failure of the July 20 plot, the SS chief Heinrich Himmler told a meeting of Gauleiters in Posen that he would "introduce absolute responsibility of kin ... a very old custom practiced among our forefathers." According to Himmler, this practice had existed among the ancient Teutons. "When they placed a family under the ban and declared it outlawed or when there was a blood feud in the family, they were utterly consistent ... This man has committed treason; his blood is bad; there is traitor's blood in him; that must be wiped out. And in the blood feud the entire clan was wiped out down to the last member. And so, too, will Count Stauffenberg's family be wiped out down to the last member."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sippenhaft
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their grandfather wrote:"I urge the American people to bring the killers to justice. I urge them to expose the hypocrisy of the 2009 Nobel Prize laureate. To some, he may be that. To me and my family, he is nothing more than a child killer."

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Which reminds me. This does make sense from the current US foreign policymaker point of view. They're targetting clerics and information distributors (a.k.a. the marketers) in order to break the chain between the terrorism business and their target market (i.e. potential recruits).

It's a great strategy if...

(1) you downplay the future costs and consequences of killing civilians--women and children, and all the fear and hatred which ensues.

(2) you assume that there's no substitutes for the crucial link of clerics and journalists/bloggers/talking heads

(3) you assume that killing some amount (that's yet to be determined) will prevent other clerics and journalists from doing their jobs
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Good to see everyone is still being as sensationalist as humanly possible to raise the ire of others. Good on ya! It's the American way! :D
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FoxMists wrote:Good to see everyone is still being as sensationalist as humanly possible to raise the ire of others. Good on ya! It's the American way! :D
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