[SPECIAL] Surprise Mafia - Over - Mafia Wins - MVP Aladdin

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

because they have weight... are you fucking dumb

No they dont. You want them to, but they dont. You will treat them as if they do, but they dont.

[StorrZerg]

how ignorant are you wtf is wrong with you, you must be mafia

[CatchersMitt14]

Nothing stated above has changed my opinion, so again,,,,
UNVOTE (no lynch)
VOTE WingCmdr Ginkapo

Reasons mirror those given above by others, in addition to reasons I gave earlier. I have other suspicions, but I am not giving them voice at the moment.

What point do we finally have to reach in order for you to feel as if you need to justify your positions? Placing your vote on someone just because of someone else's argument is not helping town. Please add something to the disscussion.

Can I add anything? Of course not. I am not privy to any background discussions, because I am a vanilla townie. All I can know is what is posted herein.

You don't need outside information in order to play the game, you may be new, but so are quite a few of us. There are also many of us with no extra intel either. Read and anyalize arguments and comments.

Wing came out of the gate attacking me. He is a tad "aggressive" in the forums, appears firm in his ideas there as he does here. However, I still go back to why would he attack a new player from the outset, and continue to do so?

Seeing how you reacto to an "attack" as you call it is one of thd ways we get a read on you. And so foar, it's been difficult to determine whether it's your inexperiene or you're scum. My opinon now is that you're scum.

It does not take experience to know that losing so many townies right off the bat is bad.

We're going to lose townines, it's part of the game. Don't let that discourage you. Unless it's a tactic you're using to push your mafia agenda.

All the investigations that can be done have been done, I don't see a lot gained from the "back and forth". No new information, just rehashing. So, I guess I am with those that just want to move the game along, for good or ill.

HOw do you know this? Still sure you don't hav eany inside information? You asked me about a read for someone other then yourslef. Well what about TWR? Hasn't posted in five days. Claims to have a very benificial role for town. Has yet to give us any useful information. I'm still interested to hear if he found anything last night. If not, I'm in favor of looking more closely at him tomorrow.

FP'd by several times by Wing and Storr

[the white rose]

I am still here and listening to all that is going on.

haven't posted recently cos i have nothing really to add.

out of the 3, i understand that 2 are town and 1 scum, that being the case how can wing be 3p sk?

of the inventors, i think LSU is an insane inventor, no idea as to is alignement though.

I could hammer wing, i don't like his style of play, but not convinced that he is scum. cpr doc is an usual claim for scum.

out of the 3 maybe i would vote for deg but really do feel that storr is reviver godfather and brough mars back as a recruited scum. so i am sticking with that even though i accept there is no chance of lynching storr today

[StorrZerg]

unvote
vote wing

[dakky21]

unvote
vote wing

not sure but think now wing is lynched for sure... too drunk to count votes now. 4.34 am here. will do it today but i'm pretty sure that's it...

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

how ignorant are you wtf is wrong with you, you must be mafia

Its pretty sad how you pull this card everytime someone doesnt do what you want.

[DJPatrick]

Au Revoir, Monkey Man...you MAY turn up non-scum and perhaps even town rather than a third party but whatha...I've posted I think two out of three of YOU/Storr/Alladin are scum and you are the Litmus test...
btw...I posted Much, much earlier that the Mods were screwing with us re roles etc but both you and Storr derided me for it preferring to play how it's always played ...it's a Bastard game and mabe you were just grumpy rather than an out an out Bastard but trust me I'm a surly ol bastard and know how tothink outside the square when bastards screw with my town...

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Au Revoir, Monkey Man...you MAY turn up non-scum and perhaps even town rather than a third party but whatha...I've posted I think two out of three of YOU/Storr/Alladin are scum and you are the Litmus test...
btw...I posted Much, much earlier that the Mods were screwing with us re roles etc but both you and Storr derided me for it preferring to play how it's always played ...it's a Bastard game and mabe you were just grumpy rather than an out an out Bastard but trust me I'm a surly ol bastard and know how tothink outside the square when bastards screw with my town...

There is nothing to base this on. I hope nobody listens to you.

My other piece of advice is to White Rosr. Claim at the start of D5.

[StorrZerg]

how ignorant are you wtf is wrong with you, you must be mafia

Its pretty sad how you pull this card everytime someone doesnt do what you want.

get what i want. shits on you son. you claiming you will do something then not following through.

[madmitch]

sorry to see u gone WCG,

[the white rose]

unvote
vote wing

not sure but think now wing is lynched for sure.....

Eh? you think you are sure that wing is lynched, but you are not sure that you are sure?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

unvote
vote wing

not sure but think now wing is lynched for sure.....

Eh? you think you are sure that wing is lynched, but you are not sure that you are sure?

Dont play the mods. They are running the game for us. Dont abuse that.

[the white rose]

lighten up wing, it was only a joke

[AladdinSane]

Oh Aladdin. Storr doesnt have 2 saves every night. It was a one off I believe.

Sounds to me like he is claiming dubbel-saves on N0, N1, N2:

N0 tambo virus. Value these guys the most blindly. Had no idea they would flake so hard at the start of the game. Tambo did hard town read me before modkill. Possible one was saved, hence nk death mtamburini, wouldn't be surprised if he was shot. No idea who other medic saved. N1, saved self and pcm. (Yes I had the option to self save. ) didn't want to save ib, because he looked spent. And unlikely a target yo die. Saved pcm because he hadn't done much.

N0: MTam, Virus
N1: Storr, PCM
N2: Benga, PTLowe

Now claims to be spent. Kinda weerd reeson fer saving PCM, now I look at it agin: "Saved pcm because he hadn't done much."

Wing, if you reed dis before yer offishal linching, why do you tink Storr only had a wun-orf dubble save? Ackshually dat was my impresshun wen he first reveeled his divinity too. Will go bak and chek later.

[PLAYER57832]

All the investigations that can be done have been done, I don't see a lot gained from the "back and forth". No new information, just rehashing. So, I guess I am with those that just want to move the game along, for good or ill.

HOw do you know this? Still sure you don't hav eany inside information?

Its my understanding that there are no more cop checks, inventions, etc left for today. Other stuff is just folks guessing. Folks keep saying "wait for information", but nothing is forthcoming.

You asked me about a read for someone other then yourslef. Well what about TWR? Hasn't posted in five days. Claims to have a very benificial role for town. Has yet to give us any useful information. I'm still interested to hear if he found anything last night. If not, I'm in favor of looking more closely at him tomorrow.

Agree with checking tomorrow. Today, we were given a 1 in 3 chance. Seems we should target them.

FP'd by several times by Wing and Storr

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Wing's last posts, referring to "when" he flips town are the closest to anything positive I have read from him. That said, I am not sure he is saying he is town, just maybe not anti-town.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Sounds like Storr is still lying out of his arse.

Tambo wasnt shot, he was modkilled.

Storr needs to be honest, as otherwise:

A) Benga was targeted by mafia (unlikely as he has no abilities)
B) IB targeted by mafia (mega unlikely as he is claiming no abilities and is scummy)
C) Rish is lying about block and something else is going on
D) IB is mafia and has been caught red handed

Options A-C are very unlikely, and unless Storr is claiming otherwise....

But hey I said this earlier today but everyone thinks it makes sense to lynch the guy who has shot no one.

fp'd by Player - I AM Town. We were also given a 1 in 1 chance, but you all ignored it. 1 in 3 isnt actually that much different to the likely ratio of town to mafia now. You've all been distracted by an invention/mods.

[PLAYER57832]

Was ready to rethink Wing, but now we will know for sure.

[PLAYER57832]

If wing isn't mafia, then I say we need to find the one who is. Waiting on result.

[Iron Butterfly]

Sounds like Storr is still lying out of his arse.

Tambo wasnt shot, he was modkilled.

Storr needs to be honest, as otherwise:

A) Benga was targeted by mafia (unlikely as he has no abilities)
B) IB targeted by mafia (mega unlikely as he is claiming no abilities and is scummy)
C) Rish is lying about block and something else is going on
D) IB is mafia and has been caught red handed

Options A-C are very unlikely, and unless Storr is claiming otherwise....

But hey I said this earlier today but everyone thinks it makes sense to lynch the guy who has shot no one.

fp'd by Player - I AM Town. We were also given a 1 in 1 chance, but you all ignored it. 1 in 3 isnt actually that much different to the likely ratio of town to mafia now. You've all been distracted by an invention/mods.

I will say I agree with all your points except D. Correct me if I am wrong but I am scummy because of the 8 ball and the glasses.

I have believed that Rish is Town but I question why a jail keeper would jail keep a VT. An 18 player game and he did so because I have a good head on my shoulders? Talk about pocketing.

[AladdinSane]

Sounds like Storr is still lying out of his arse.

Tambo wasnt shot, he was modkilled.

N0 tambo virus. Value these guys the most blindly. Had no idea they would flake so hard at the start of the game. Tambo did hard town read me before modkill. Possible one was saved, hence nk death mtamburini, wouldn't be surprised if he was shot.

I tink Storr is saying MTam cood have been shot N0 but saved by Storr's Doc ackshun. It's super-weerd, tho, becorse

1. Why does Storr tink sumwun had a NK ackshun N0?

2. Why value MTam and Virus "most blindly", goiven he cood have no idee of there alinements in dis game on N0? In fact, why not just reserve teh saves until later in teh game, wen dey wood have had a grater chanse of been useful?

3. Why wood Storr put eny creedense into the idee dat Mafia targeted MTam N0, even if dey had a shot? Seems a bit far-feched to tink Mafia just randomly picked MTman, and so did Storr. Sounds even moor far-feched to tink dat Storr ackshually beleeves dis hapened.

No idea who other medic saved. N1, saved self and pcm. (Yes I had the option to self save. ) didn't want to save ib, because he looked spent. And unlikely a target yo die. Saved pcm because he hadn't done much.

So, Storr cood self-save? He eggspeckted to die (he says) wen he revived Marashu. Dident occer to him to try to self-save N2? OR maybe it DID occer to him...hmmm. Maybe dats why he isent ded.

And, agin: "Saved pcm because he hadn't done much." Wot kind of funking reeson is dat?

Storr needs to be honest, as otherwise:

A) Benga was targeted by mafia (unlikely as he has no abilities)

Awtho it has to be said, he keeps ackwiring abilities tanks to orl teh gifts he reseeves. Mafia cood have targeted him to prevent him frum using them.

B) IB targeted by mafia (mega unlikely as he is claiming no abilities and is scummy)
C) Rish is lying about block and something else is going on
D) IB is mafia and has been caught red handed

Options A-C are very unlikely, and unless Storr is claiming otherwise....

But hey I said this earlier today but everyone thinks it makes sense to lynch the guy who has shot no one.

Maybe peepul are mad at you fer not shooting Mitch wen you had teh chanse lol (Same goes fer Deg, but at leest he woonded him). Orso, you were jailed N1 and N2, so you can hardly take credit fer not shooting on those nites. And you admited yer motives fer not shooting N3 were selfish, and dat you woodent refrain again and were moor likely to hit Town than scum.

[AladdinSane]

If wing isn't mafia, then I say we need to find the one who is.

Tanks, Captain Obvius.

[AladdinSane]

I will say I agree with all your points except D. Correct me if I am wrong but I am scummy because of the 8 ball and the glasses.

"red-handed" = "blood on yer hands".

[Iron Butterfly]

I will say I agree with all your points except D. Correct me if I am wrong but I am scummy because of the 8 ball and the glasses.

"red-handed" = "blood on yer hands".

Word it however you chose. It is still the same point.

[StorrZerg]

Sounds like Storr is still lying out of his arse.

Tambo wasnt shot, he was modkilled.

Storr needs to be honest, as otherwise:

A) Benga was targeted by mafia (unlikely as he has no abilities)
B) IB targeted by mafia (mega unlikely as he is claiming no abilities and is scummy)
C) Rish is lying about block and something else is going on
D) IB is mafia and has been caught red handed

Options A-C are very unlikely, and unless Storr is claiming otherwise....

But hey I said this earlier today but everyone thinks it makes sense to lynch the guy who has shot no one.

fp'd by Player - I AM Town. We were also given a 1 in 1 chance, but you all ignored it. 1 in 3 isnt actually that much different to the likely ratio of town to mafia now. You've all been distracted by an invention/mods.

I said tambo might have been shot n0. Hence when i saved him, the claim was n0. Im not an idiot, i know he was mod killed. how much crack have you been smoking?

As for those who say, why would i think a kill happened n0. Well, idk i was allowed to use my power, so why wouldn't mafia be able to shot. Mod asked for roles to send in actions... Unless someone can confirm we know for certain that mafia WASN"T allowed to shoot n0, then its a possibility.