muy_thaiguy wrote:Also have to remember farms and ranches. I garuntee you a moped or a little scooter is going to be pretty useless on either one.
Well yes, of course. You'll need tractors and one or two cars to get from field to field, but I'm speaking mainly to middle America who don't have those kinds of obligations and whose only need for a car would be traveling out of town (commute to work, maybe, if it's in another city. i.e. Salem to Portland, Oregon) or traveling.
The inflation rate in Zimbabwe just hit 4 million percent. Some people say it is only 165,000, but they are just being stupid. -Scott Adams, artist and writer of Dilbert
Hologram wrote:The simple solution for all of this: Get off your lazy butts, buy a bike, and use your bike for anything less than 10 blocks away. Preferably even more, but you must acclimate.
Here is my problem. My immediate cross street is a narrow road without sidewalks where people routinely go over the posted limit of 30 MPH (but generally not by much). Both walking or riding a bike is potentially dangerous there due to the nature of the road. (And there is an elementary school half way down that road ... go figure.
Personally I would need a small plug in vechicle for this situation. Ironically my Prius is the worst thing in this case it loves to use the gas until the engine warms up so very short trips are an MPG disaster for it.
That's the problem, solutions that might work in generally level urban areas don't often work in rural environments. I for example can't use mass transit to get to work, I have a 35 mile (one way) commute from the middle no nowhere to somwhere that is slightly off of somewhere else. I have to take a 20 mile ride to get to the end of the electric line if I wanted to go into the city.
I chose my current house because it's on a train line, and because I can walk to three downtowns form here (just over two miles to the furthest.
This is partly because I think cars should be a last resort (but yes we do drive to the supermarket, or anywhere outside walking distance and not on the train line). Partly it's because I don't drive a car.
oggiss wrote:Stop complaining about the fucking gas prices. In Sweden we pay ~$7,57 per gallon -_-
Damn, that's cheap, it's about 1$ more than that here in Germany.
saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
... Americans don't know how cheap they've had it for so long, lowest prices on the planet for decades.
... I worked at a gas station back in my school days and I remember my boss would come in in the morning, get in his car, then drive around town writing the prices every other station had set. He'd then come back and set our price somewhere in the middle. Not a lot of science or calculation went into the decision.
... And this was a SpeedWay. Wonder if folks still do that.
jonesthecurl wrote:I chose my current house because it's on a train line, and because I can walk to three downtowns form here (just over two miles to the furthest.
This is partly because I think cars should be a last resort (but yes we do drive to the supermarket, or anywhere outside walking distance and not on the train line). Partly it's because I don't drive a car.
Yes!
People complain and complain, "Well, where I live you HAVE to drive." Usually they've made a very wrong choice about WHERE to live.
Nobunaga wrote:... Americans don't know how cheap they've had it for so long, lowest prices on the planet for decades.
... I worked at a gas station back in my school days and I remember my boss would come in in the morning, get in his car, then drive around town writing the prices every other station had set. He'd then come back and set our price somewhere in the middle. Not a lot of science or calculation went into the decision.
... And this was a SpeedWay. Wonder if folks still do that.
...
Well, that's mostly because the U.S. has a thing called emininent domain that allows the government to take any property, reimburse the owner, and use it for development, which allows it to build large highways and streets where people usually wouldn't be willing to give up their property.
Europe doesn't have that, and as such, they have to keep as many people off the roads as possible, so they institute a high gas tax.
The inflation rate in Zimbabwe just hit 4 million percent. Some people say it is only 165,000, but they are just being stupid. -Scott Adams, artist and writer of Dilbert
Nobunaga wrote:... Americans don't know how cheap they've had it for so long, lowest prices on the planet for decades.
... I worked at a gas station back in my school days and I remember my boss would come in in the morning, get in his car, then drive around town writing the prices every other station had set. He'd then come back and set our price somewhere in the middle. Not a lot of science or calculation went into the decision.
... And this was a SpeedWay. Wonder if folks still do that.
...
Well, that's mostly because the U.S. has a thing called emininent domain that allows the government to take any property, reimburse the owner, and use it for development, which allows it to build large highways and streets where people usually wouldn't be willing to give up their property.
Europe doesn't have that, and as such, they have to keep as many people off the roads as possible, so they institute a high gas tax.
(a) are you boasting or complaining? it's not clear.
(b) I'm not sure what you're comment has to do with the post you're quoting
(c) The UK at least has something called "compulsory purchase" which seems to be the same thing.
Nobunaga wrote:... Americans don't know how cheap they've had it for so long, lowest prices on the planet for decades.
... I worked at a gas station back in my school days and I remember my boss would come in in the morning, get in his car, then drive around town writing the prices every other station had set. He'd then come back and set our price somewhere in the middle. Not a lot of science or calculation went into the decision.
... And this was a SpeedWay. Wonder if folks still do that.
...
Well, that's mostly because the U.S. has a thing called emininent domain that allows the government to take any property, reimburse the owner, and use it for development, which allows it to build large highways and streets where people usually wouldn't be willing to give up their property.
Europe doesn't have that, and as such, they have to keep as many people off the roads as possible, so they institute a high gas tax.
(a) are you boasting or complaining? it's not clear.
(b) I'm not sure what you're comment has to do with the post you're quoting
(c) The UK at least has something called "compulsory purchase" which seems to be the same thing.
A) Neither, I'm merely commenting on the reason why America's oil prices were so cheap for so long (still are cheap, really)
B)
... Americans don't know how cheap they've had it for so long, lowest prices on the planet for decades.
C) Okay. I don't know the specific details about all the European countries, but it's mainly the Continent that I was talking about.
The inflation rate in Zimbabwe just hit 4 million percent. Some people say it is only 165,000, but they are just being stupid. -Scott Adams, artist and writer of Dilbert
Gas / Petrol prices should be doubled with tax (even more than it already is) and the money the government makes from that should be used to implement better and more public transit systems.. It'll also encourage people to get off their fat ass and ride a bike
N.B - I'm well aware of the fact if my pricing proposal was implemented, that there would be 0% chance that the extra tax funds would be used to better the public transport systems, but instead for better and longer holidays for politicians.. but the idea in the first place would be good -
how many more brown people do we have to kill in the desert before gas gets cheap again?
i thought we were supposed to kill less than we already have, but it looks like we just gotta kill more of them. and maybe. just hope. and send your sons and daughters to fight for WMD. right.
Nobunaga wrote:... And now the House of Reps is going to sue OPEC.
... What a gaggle of idiots we have in government. Unbelievable.
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Who else are they supposed to get angry at? The energy companies (who are making most of the profits) who own their souls and their re-election funds? Please.
Or maybe, if they reallly wanted to get fired, they could maybe ask their constituents to maybe not consume so g-damn much. No, we get a gas tax holiday.
