CC Objective Games [Abandoned]

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:05 pm

Added

Dieforasandwich · Post by **Dieforasandwich** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:54 pm

I'm in.

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:09 pm

Added, need 10 more and a few reserves.

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:41 pm

One bump.

ubersky · Post by **ubersky** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:39 pm

in please

Tobikera · Post by **Tobikera** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:47 pm

I would like to join. Thanks.

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:57 pm

Tobikera wrote:I would like to join. Thanks.

Added.

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:58 pm

ubersky wrote:in please

Already in!

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:43 pm

I have sent a PM to my tournament invite list, if you know anyone else who wants in, don't hesitate to send them over.

We need 9 more to get started, plus a few reserves.

DBandit70 · Post by **DBandit70** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:10 pm

In please

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:06 pm

Added

big jumbo · Post by **big jumbo** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:16 pm

in please

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:33 am

Added. 7 more.

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:37 am

I wish I had time to join this... I think objective games have breathed some creativity and life into CC....

I was surprised to read this though:

[quote=Bald Adonis]The Arctic map has 48 territories with 8 bonus regions. This makes it a good size for 3,4,6, and 8 player games (no neutrals, good territory split) and gives a decent 2 player game (16 territories, small bonuses centralized). All team games are recommended, as well as either flat rate or escalating multiplayer games. There's a polar bear in the corner of the map, capture it to win the game! (That's a joke, this map doesn't stoop to objective-based gameplay).[/quote]

This is from his Official Strategy guide.

viewtopic.php?f=374&t=79243

jielking · Post by **jielking** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:02 pm

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:05 pm

jielking wrote:in

Added

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:09 pm

AAFitz wrote:I wish I had time to join this... I think objective games have breathed some creativity and life into CC....

I was surprised to read this though:

[quote=Bald Adonis]The Arctic map has 48 territories with 8 bonus regions. This makes it a good size for 3,4,6, and 8 player games (no neutrals, good territory split) and gives a decent 2 player game (16 territories, small bonuses centralized). All team games are recommended, as well as either flat rate or escalating multiplayer games. There's a polar bear in the corner of the map, capture it to win the game! (That's a joke, this map doesn't stoop to objective-based gameplay).

This is from his Official Strategy guide.

viewtopic.php?f=374&t=79243[/quote]

Thank you for the comment AAFitz. I have wanted to do this type of scoring for some time. I think that occasionally it is both fun and competitive to approach our games from a different mindset. And while I agree that "World Domination" (Or Standard) game play is the traditional style, I see no reason why Objective based games cannot be just as competitive or even more difficult to play. It is a shame that they are looked upon that way, perhaps this tournament will shed some light on the possibilities.

OliverFA · Post by **OliverFA** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:44 pm

This tournament looks amazing! I would like to play if there is room left

JimRocky · Post by **JimRocky** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:36 pm

I'll go.

Beckytheblondie · Post by **Beckytheblondie** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:49 pm

In please!

Beckytheblondie · Post by **Beckytheblondie** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:50 pm

round 3 should be escalating, this will take forever and we will never move to round 4

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:16 pm

Beckytheblondie wrote:round 3 should be escalating, this will take forever and we will never move to round 4

I actually thought pretty good about this one. I'll put out my line of reasoning, but feel free to continue the discussion.

First of all, the map is the plain Australia map, not Rail or Cairns Coral Coast or Sydney Metro, etc. This map is relatively small, so I hope to keep people fighting. Also, in my experience, I find that bonuses are generally not held, as they are too open. The easiest bonus is the bottom right, worth +2 armies. The problem with this bonus is that at least two players will aim for it every time. Additionally, there will be some cards, so movement should occur.

The game is about survival. I didn't want to use escalating cards, because I didn't want it to come down to a large sweep, where one player just randomly decided to kill one player before another. I was hoping it could come down to positioning and strategy. Also, this map is very open in the pretty much all areas. Lake Eyre, Uluru and Western Downs all open to several other territories. I think that there should be an opportunity to always go for a kill, if you think you are strong enough. However, that might also leave you vulnerable. I did avoid no cards, because obviously everyone would just build.

Finally, the rule on round limits is designed that I can add them if necessary, although I don't want to. However, if games hit 15 rounds, I will take a look at them, and make an announcement before 20 rounds. I will leave AT LEAST 10 rounds for them to end, so you can adjust your strategy accordingly. Like I said though, I REALLY do not want to have to do this.

Also, I plan on starting about a game every 5 days. Everyone is Premium. So I expect Round 4 to happen in about three weeks, regardless. the last two rounds should be fairly short, assassin games generally do not last all that long.

I continue to encourage feedback, however. These are new ways of scoring, and I thought long and hard about balancing them. Feel free to let me know how a map changed the outcome, or if the settings were not ideal, or anything. I hope, in the future, to continue to run tournaments with these alternative objectives.

tl;dr version:

I thought a lot about the settings.
Round limits will be imposed, BUT ONLY IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
Games to start about every 5 days to keep tourney moving.
Australia map shouldn't encourage building, by my conclusions.

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:18 pm

All added to this point, we are at 37. Three more signups, plus a few reserves, and I will request privileges.

Also, please note that I plan on starting each round about every 5 days, to keep tourney moving. You are all premium, and the game load really shouldn't go that high, but I wanted to make that point.

Blinkadyblink · Post by **Blinkadyblink** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:38 pm

This looks fun, I'll join.

SuicidalSnowman · Post by **SuicidalSnowman** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:44 pm

Added, two more.

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