spurgistan(Flamer) is killed. Their stance against Landgrab changes to "Worst Enemy" due to game mechanics. And now you have admitted to killing spurgistan. Equating both, we get you as a "Landgrab"er. Now tell me what you didn't understand from this?
rebelman wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:thats why my next wife will be a player from this site. I wont mention who
obviously you are looking for a woman thats a good cook and likes you to dominate in one on one
spurgistan(Flamer) is killed. Their stance against Landgrab changes to "Worst Enemy" due to game mechanics. And now you have admitted to killing spurgistan. Equating both, we get you as a "Landgrab"er. Now tell me what you didn't understand from this?
i dont think you know everything behind the scenes that can happen, given that more than just killing someone can affect relations. Diplomacy between different factions could potentially sway things as well every night.
To use imperfect information to drive your entire understanding of the mechanics of the game is an incredible flawed and dangerous way to tread along the game.
nagerous wrote:I think a name claim would be helpful tonka, or are you just trying to avoid the question.
I dont really think i should have to divluge information that is essentially unnecessary to share at this point in time, and only puts my partner in jeopardy.
When i stopped getting pestered by a bunch of people out to lynch the one person trying to help town in the night phase, ill consider the other options.
My vote stays as Crab is pointing out the evidence. The game mechanics were listed on page 1 and it says that killing a member would cause a change to "worst enemy" so how else would you explain that.
LSU Tiger Josh
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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:My vote stays as Crab is pointing out the evidence. The game mechanics were listed on page 1 and it says that killing a member would cause a change to "worst enemy" so how else would you explain that.
it certainly isnt the only thing, and its possible i wasnt the only shooter. After all he was a roleblocker, and i am a known vig.
and for what it is worth, i revealed the role of my mason partner to hecter in a pm, and he could actually verify im not lying, but given the circumstances its not possible for me to claim that person as my mason partner and have it be believed.
Again i feel its important to stress, i am not landgrab.
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:My vote stays as Crab is pointing out the evidence. The game mechanics were listed on page 1 and it says that killing a member would cause a change to "worst enemy" so how else would you explain that.
it certainly isnt the only thing, and its possible i wasnt the only shooter. After all he was a roleblocker, and i am a known vig.
You claim "it isn't the only thing" and it's possible that you weren't the only shooter. However, it should also be pointed out to you that is the only way to go to "worst enemy" as far as we can tell from the game mechanics and it should also be pointed out that he is indeed dead and no one else changed to "worst enemy" with Flamers last night which equates to you as a landgrab member actually being the killer.
LSU Tiger Josh
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i know but what i am saying is it is not the only way for statuses to change. For instance...you can have other events take away -2 or -1. If other events independently of spurgistan being killed occured between a number of different factions they could be affected. Shooters are not the only ones who can affect the way things change.
if i have said it once, ive said it one thousand times, i am not landgrab, and simply because that status changed, does not mean other things no longer have to be investigated. I think landgrab is using me as a fall guy which is the last thing the anyone needs today.
seemingly if someone was recruited it would have the exact same affect as someone from landgrab shooting someone on the flamers. In fact if there was a successful recruitment, its a very easy way to tailor it around me being the one who was responsible, when in fact it was landgrabs diplomat.
I put forward the people who have been most responsible for trying to get me lynched....nagerous, lsu, and crab. I posit that if there is a day cop out there, any one of those 3 is a worthy investigation target.
got tonkaed wrote:i know but what i am saying is it is not the only way for statuses to change. For instance...you can have other events take away -2 or -1. If other events independently of spurgistan being killed occured between a number of different factions they could be affected. Shooters are not the only ones who can affect the way things change.
if i have said it once, ive said it one thousand times, i am not landgrab, and simply because that status changed, does not mean other things no longer have to be investigated. I think landgrab is using me as a fall guy which is the last thing the anyone needs today.
Ok let's say you are correct and other groups targeted flamers last night. The diplomacy page only shows landgrab and flamers changing. This would equate of having to have an exact equal amount of diplomatic points exectued among any other groups including yours for someone else to be in land grab. Sorry GT, but this really isn't adding up with the info that we've been given. Too unlikely that someone else from your group would cancel out your -2 points from killing spurg.
LSU Tiger Josh
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Also Brawl Hall became an ally with landgrab. You get bonus points for killing a member of the "worst enemy". It should be noted that Brawl Hall increased its relations with land grab which further points out the evidence against you.
LSU Tiger Josh
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got tonkaed wrote:i know but what i am saying is it is not the only way for statuses to change. For instance...you can have other events take away -2 or -1. If other events independently of spurgistan being killed occured between a number of different factions they could be affected. Shooters are not the only ones who can affect the way things change.
if i have said it once, ive said it one thousand times, i am not landgrab, and simply because that status changed, does not mean other things no longer have to be investigated. I think landgrab is using me as a fall guy which is the last thing the anyone needs today.
Ok let's say you are correct and other groups targeted flamers last night. The diplomacy page only shows landgrab and flamers changing. This would equate of having to have an exact equal amount of diplomatic points exectued among any other groups including yours for someone else to be in land grab. Sorry GT, but this really isn't adding up with the info that we've been given. Too unlikely that someone else from your group would cancel out your -2 points from killing spurg.
like i said, i dont know what the actions would have been. But the entire premise you have is that i am a member of landgrab, which ive told you all day every day im not. Im telling you that there was likely a recruitment, as im not a member of that group. Its not my place to disclose any more of the outside of normal game procedure information that slipped between hecter and I, but i can tell you that as well does add up. Again i have been disclosing my actions as i have done them and have not lied about my alignment.
You however are trying to squeeze me into the imperfect knowledge you have about the requirements, and therefore you get the conclusion you want.
Im telling you, you lynch me today and all you do is help landgrab.
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Also Brawl Hall became an ally with landgrab. You get bonus points for killing a member of the "worst enemy". It should be noted that Brawl Hall increased its relations with land grab which further points out the evidence against you.
This would also explain why he was trying to find out who to kill back on night 1 when he had the mishap with hecter especially being that hecter said it was something to the effect about who to kill tonight which shouldn't be done on night 1 unless you are 99.9% sure someone is scum.
LSU Tiger Josh
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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Also Brawl Hall became an ally with landgrab. You get bonus points for killing a member of the "worst enemy". It should be noted that Brawl Hall increased its relations with land grab which further points out the evidence against you.
This would also explain why he was trying to find out who to kill back on night 1 when he had the mishap with hecter especially being that hecter said it was something to the effect about who to kill tonight which shouldn't be done on night 1 unless you are 99.9% sure someone is scum.
I would shoot in a large field game 100 percent of the time unless a circumstance like hecters occured. To suggest that you shouldnt shoot in a game where there are 7 scum factions seems like a dumb person would say as you have a greater than 50 percent chance of hitting scum.
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Also Brawl Hall became an ally with landgrab. You get bonus points for killing a member of the "worst enemy". It should be noted that Brawl Hall increased its relations with land grab which further points out the evidence against you.
This would also explain why he was trying to find out who to kill back on night 1 when he had the mishap with hecter especially being that hecter said it was something to the effect about who to kill tonight which shouldn't be done on night 1 unless you are 99.9% sure someone is scum.
I would shoot in a large field game 100 percent of the time unless a circumstance like hecters occured. To suggest that you shouldnt shoot in a game where there are 7 scum factions seems like a dumb person would say as you have a greater than 50 percent chance of hitting scum.
The only game I've actually seen where there were even CLOSE TO 50% enemies while a town member was my Civil War mafia when both sides started the same. Otherwise in every other game I've been in it's been closer to only about 20-25% scum. To not shoot on top of that, please. GT I'm sorry, but you aren't the pro town hero this game. All evidence leads to you being a scum member and as such you must be lynched.
LSU Tiger Josh
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LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Also Brawl Hall became an ally with landgrab. You get bonus points for killing a member of the "worst enemy". It should be noted that Brawl Hall increased its relations with land grab which further points out the evidence against you.
Thought it is equally possible that it resulted from Brawl Hall killing Esoog and since heir relations also went down I think that is more likely.
rebelman wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:thats why my next wife will be a player from this site. I wont mention who
obviously you are looking for a woman thats a good cook and likes you to dominate in one on one
hey dummy, do the math...7 factions at least 3 players in a faction....equals 21 players who are scum if its 4 players per faction its 28 players out of 36 both are higher than 50 percent.
Its incredibly likely your a member of a scum faction, its just your not the one on the chopping block.
