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Post by sfhbballnut »

dakky21 wrote:Concise description:
  • When starting a game, option to choose only the number of players and turn duration, and put everything else on random.

Specifics/Details:
  • All settings except number of players are random, including singles, teams, map, inital troops and all other settings.
  • When game is created, everything except number of players and turn duration is shown as random, and the settings are known when last player joins the game.
  • Possibility to select what will be random

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
  • Many tourneys say "random" settings but they're just hand picked. No "real" random tournaments.
  • Lots of achievements need new unique players in team to get them
  • There are people who avoid some settings, this way everything is upon their luck (or they don't join)
  • Should be simple to implement

I took one game and painted it so you get what I mean:

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That would just be awesome!
Obviously, in even number games there can't be triples unless it's 12 players. Ruleset would be created, but that's up to the admins...

As posted below, something like this should be implemented:
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[spoiler=OP]Random Map

When you go to create a game there should be an option for random map, so that you can play without having to pick a map. Useful tool for tournaments and people who don't care about the map they're playing on.
Could also be extended to for random game settings, again useful tournament tool/ popular with players

A twist on this could be hidden Map or settings where you can't see what you're joining on the join games screen, this could only work if the random idea was implemented because the creator would know what it was before the rest of the players I really don't think hidden settings would work, but hidden map could. So players don't always join for the map.

just an interesting idea, importance (2-3)[/spoiler]
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Post by HotShot53 »

I usually play random maps or random whatever when I can... I think this would be cool :)

And the creator wouldn't necessarily know what the map was first, if it stays random until the last person joins and the game starts...
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good idea
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Post by AndyDufresne »

I could see a Random Map being an option on the Start a game page. Would perhaps be a nice little addition.


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Yes. Labelled *to-do*
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Post by wicked »

I bet Circus Maximus would get played a lot more then!
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wow, that was fast
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Post by Marvaddin »

wicked wrote:I bet Circus Maximus would get played a lot more then!


Hehe, yes. Maybe we could have it for more options... but then you could adjust in your settings some options you would like to exclude, like if you want a random map, from a pool of 4 or 5 maps only.
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Post by gavin_sidhu »

Marvaddin wrote:
wicked wrote:I bet Circus Maximus would get played a lot more then!


Hehe, yes. Maybe we could have it for more options... but then you could adjust in your settings some options you would like to exclude, like if you want a random map, from a pool of 4 or 5 maps only.
don't like this bit. If its random it has to be totally random. Unlucky the people who get stuck in crossword, or get a triples game in indochina.
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Post by AK_iceman »

Yeah, if its going to be random then it should be chosen out of all the possible options.
Good idea sfhbballnut! :D
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Post by Stoney229 »

Marvaddin wrote:
wicked wrote:I bet Circus Maximus would get played a lot more then!


Hehe, yes. Maybe we could have it for more options... but then you could adjust in your settings some options you would like to exclude, like if you want a random map, from a pool of 4 or 5 maps only.


I like this better
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Suggestion Idea: Button in "Create a new game" that randomly chooses between all of the options. (Perhaps a Random Freestyle and Random Sequential might be needed!)

Alternatively - Under Join a Game... perhaps a "Join a Random game" button... that finds a *public* game in the list and adds you in.

Why it is needed: Dunno

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Post by Coleman »

Not sure how you meant that, but I'd like it if it remained an unknown random thing until the game starts, and if you could do it with maps too and maybe use check boxes like you do in game finder to decide what it can be random between. (So you don't roll crossword if you don't like it or something)
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Post by yeti_c »

Coleman wrote:Not sure how you meant that, but I'd like it if it remained an unknown random thing until the game starts, and if you could do it with maps too and maybe use check boxes like you do in game finder to decide what it can be random between. (So you don't roll crossword if you don't like it or something)


Now that's a better idea... like it a lot... that way you'd not get "home advantage"

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Post by Risktaker17 »

I'm a fan for more options, I would never use it but I'm still a fan.
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Post by moz976 »

I'm rolling Yeti's suggestion of random game in with the random map suggestion. I think they are very close to the same thing.
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moz976 wrote:I'm rolling Yeti's suggestion of random game in with the random map suggestion. I think they are very close to the same thing.


I concur - a slightly more fully fledged random (i.e. not just map) but v similar... (I did check the todo but missed this one!)

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Re: Random Map/Game Button *To-do*

Post by Enigma »

I'd love to have a "Random Map" button under the Start a Game tab. I actually came to the forum to suggest it but was good and checked the sticky 1st :D. There are so many maps now that its difficult for the indecisive to pick the "best" one :P.

Random Game might be a good idea too- for those who dont care and just dont want to think about it.
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yeti_c wrote:
Coleman wrote:Not sure how you meant that, but I'd like it if it remained an unknown random thing until the game starts, and if you could do it with maps too and maybe use check boxes like you do in game finder to decide what it can be random between. (So you don't roll crossword if you don't like it or something)


Now that's a better idea... like it a lot... that way you'd not get "home advantage"

With that caveat - remaining unknown until game starts - it's a more meaningful and worthwhile option.
However I'm not convinced that many people will use it beyond the initial novelty ...
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Re: Random Map/Game Button *To-do*

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I think you'll see it mostly used in Tourneys...which would be cool.
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Re: Random Map/Game Button *To-do*

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LOVE the random map part -- and the "keep it secret until begun" part.

I would also be happy with random choice of Terminator/Standard/Assassin ... even teams, though that might be a bit difficult & potentially more "hazardous" (for one, you don't want all cooks on one team .. fixable, just another complication). FOW/no FOW is definitely within the "spirit" as well.

HOWEVER, I never play Freestyle any longer, because I just cannot take the time to sit and wait until my opponent plays. If I were forced to in this option, I would just not use it. I suspect there are many in the same situation.

ALSO, I think it more or less goes without saying that SPEED/No Speed should not be randomized, either, for even more reasons. Of course, private/ non private would almost certainly have to be excluded .. for also obvious reasons.

Maybe you could just add a "random choice" option to EACH line? That way you could go through and pick "random" for any choice about which you don't care.
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Random Option for creating games

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Concise description:
  • This proposal would entail creating a random option for the game creator.

Specifics:
  • This will add a bit of fun for the player that like the thought of being excellent on any map, with any settings (assassin, terminator, cards/no cards, doubles,triples, etc.
  • This will provide for some interesting arrangements - 8 player Doodle Map Quadruples, 8 players on 8 Thoughts Terminator, etc.
  • This will also be a good way to introduce people to maps they haven't seen before.
  • People complaining about the type of gameplay should suck it up and remember what they signed up for - randomness.
  • Maybe a "randomize teams" option should be created.
  • I'm of the opinion that it will revolutionize clan wars, as a clan bragging about being able to tackle everyone, every map, every type will now be able to do so.
  • I think that if implemented there should be a random box for each separate type, so people can still have some control over the type of game if they wish.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • gameplay

*edit damn this was already suggested, I just missed it.
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Re: Random Option for creating games

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NO, Just choose random settings, or give your password to me and I'll create some random games for you.
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Re: Random Option for creating games

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As noted by Inhuman14 in his edited original post this has already been suggested.

The original suggestion Random Map/Game Button *To-do* is marked to-do.

Please continue the discussion in that thread.

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More random options

Post by KernowWarrior »

Love the random map option, any chance of extending it to spoils, reinforcement and fog also.

Would make the game more random.
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