The "friend zone"

Juan_Bottom · Post by **Juan_Bottom** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:30 pm

Quickest route out anyone? Oh, and it is the same girl, in case you were wondering...
I can do it on my own, I believe, but I don't want to have to work at it for the next 4 months.

Picture related.
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got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:32 pm

"try hugging her"

Juan_Bottom · Post by **Juan_Bottom** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:33 pm

(thanks Tonka)
I should point out the the only and best advice I've gotten to date was either

"kill yourself."
or
"Have sexual intercourse with her (against her will) and threaten to kill her cat if she tells anyone."

Somehow I don't think either would help....
Because she doesn't even have a cat...
But thanks for the advice mom.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:34 pm

You don't want to be friends?

I'm afraid the quickest way out is by hurting her, not physically (well that could work too ) but by just being honest "I don't want to be friends with you"

It's either that or move across the country.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:35 pm

its actually a joke from another forum i dont really post on. Anytime someone was to post an advice question about a girl, the only answers were to either "flex your muscles to assert dominance" or to "try hitting her". Since it appears the former hasnt worked for you, and the latter is rather impolite, i thought wed try for a middle path approach here.

hecter · Post by **hecter** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:35 pm

Have you tried killing yourself?

black elk speaks · Post by **black elk speaks** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:23 pm

wait... you don't want to be friends with her? really? you want more... is that it?

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:28 pm

you might be right, maybe I misunderstood your question, you want more??

If thats the case, the only way is to tell her your feelings. Simple.

Either that or get her jealous by starting something with a girl you like less, this strategy whilst risky has worked for me in the past.

Juan_Bottom · Post by **Juan_Bottom** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:09 pm

Yeah, the "friend zone" is when you dig a girl but she considers you her "best friend." It generally results in either hanging yourself or enlisting.
I've been with this girl since I was a Junior in high school... almost 6 years now. However, she and I recently split. She literally went insane on me... anyway, I asked for advice here before about how to win her back... it's working, it's definitly working... however, I may have stuck myself into the friend zone... I just want the quickest route out of this... HER friends say that she definitly wants a relationship, but if I act like I do too, she'll split again. So without saying "baby I love you let's work this out" what's the fastest way out of the friend zone? That place sucks balls.

I've never had this problem before since most girls think with their feelings... damn me for digging the one that thinks with her brain... plus, it's not like I've dated a whole lot.

Bear in mind too that she is just over the state line, so I can't see her unless she wants to see me(felon). So I can only do this through the phone, mail, and internet... I will definitly be hanging out with her over Christmas break though, so long as she doesn't read this, lol.... advice for a lonely?

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:12 pm

Sorry, I'm not very experienced with the friend zone. I've been there once but quickly realised that I didn't like the girl that much anyways.

mpjh · Post by **mpjh** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:12 pm

Not gonna work. We know that is a picture of you.

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:14 pm

Tell her straight out.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:27 pm

The real question is, "are you in the friends with benefits zone?" Because if you are, then just ejaculating on her face/tits will usually suffice. However, if you aren't getting any tail, I'd recommend hugging her.

In all honesty, the "pic related" tag reminds me way to much of /b/. Dick on lips and all that.

Juan_Bottom · Post by **Juan_Bottom** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:34 pm

InkL0sed wrote:Tell her straight out.

see that's what puts me in the friends catagory, she knows... please do not make me post the important and relevant information on that subject... lets just say I got "intoxicated" for the first time the other night, and sent her a letter. #-o

Neoteny wrote:The real question is, "are you in the friends with benefits zone?" Because if you are, then just ejaculating on her face/tits will usually suffice.

No, I'm not.

However, if someone has a trick to move up to that spot at least I would be grateful. Who the hell wouldn't be?

Neoteny wrote:In all honesty, the "pic related" tag reminds me way to much of /b/. Dick on lips and all that.

DO NOT WANT. Don't anyone dare.
Eh, just seemed like a picture would help everyone understand my motivation.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:41 pm

Eh, usually when I end up in the benefits zone, it's on her prerogative. So I guess I'm much more sexier than you.

Other than that, you could tell her tits or gtfo and be done with the whole thing. You never know. Feynman says it works as long as you don't buy her drinks or a sammich or something like that.

Juan_Bottom · Post by **Juan_Bottom** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:44 pm

Neoteny wrote:Other than that, you could tell her tits or gtfo and be done with the whole thing. You never know. Feynman says it works as long as you don't buy her drinks or a sammich or something like that.

It's the opposite if she's homeless. Buy her a breakfast bagel and she'll do anything. That's free advice in return for anyone may have for me

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mpjh · Post by **mpjh** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:24 am

Hire a whore -- it is less expensive and more reliable.

jonesthecurl · Post by **jonesthecurl** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:48 am

Juan - you're doing fine.

The "friend zone" is a good place to be.

It's quite close to the place you want to be. Most of my serious relationships (including Mrs Curl) started as friends.

Don't push.

It's hard to give specific advice, especially as you only see her on her say-so.

But here's two small suggestions -
(a) If there's a reasonable occasion for you to buy her a present ( birthday, Xmas coming up , souvenir of somewhere you've been without her) buy her something fluffy. Something cute with big eyes that she'll hug and think of you.
(b) Say that there's another girl you fancy - preferably someone she's met - you know that you and her (Woman A) are just friends now, and if you went out with Woman B it wouldn't stop you being friends, but could she (Woman A) give you some advice?

...the sneaky benefit of (b) is that you now know how to impress/attract woman A. At some romantic moment, months in the future, you do that thang (for her) which she suggested to impress a girl, having manifestly failed to do it for Woman B, and thus wordlessly demonstrate who it was you fancied all along.

And if that doesn't do the trick ( though I think it will) you know you've failed with Woman A, and still have a good approach to Woman B.

Or of course you could just say, "talk to the Curl, he'll tell you what a fine fellow I am".

And if all of the above seems too manipulative, I garuantee that , if you get together, and then reveal this whole thread (after a suitable delay) she willl only realise how much she meant to you - you tried everywhere to find the right approach to the one woman that would suit.

Gregrios · Post by **Gregrios** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:09 am

Juan, I would say to give her a choice. Intimate or eliminate. If she really does like you in that way and is just assuming that you'll be around when she's ready to get serious, then this should speed up the process. On the other side of the coin, if she really does see you as just a freind then you could lose out on something great. Then there's always a chance that she hasn't even considered dating you but that's just pure speculation.

My best advice to you is to keep being freinds with her. Stay patient and throw out some casual hints now and then. If there's any chance of you two becoming more serious, then it can only happen as long as you're her freind. This would be the safe route to take. Low risk - high reward. If you guys stay freinds long enough, things will change one way or another. Good luck Juan. 8-)

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:13 am

Neoteny wrote:Dick on lips

We have winrar!

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:13 am

consider that in all likelyhood, the reason you are in the friendzone is because you are in fact the type of guy whose personality puts him there. While friends are never a bad thing, and we should all seek as many good ones as we can find, you are probably looking for something different in terms of a friend vs someone for a relationship, partner, what have you. Granted youre already at the point where this advice can only help for future reference, the idea is simple. Figure out what it is about yourself and your wants and needs that make you desirable as a friend to people who you desire as more than a friend.

If you cant figure it out on your own, take one of your close friends and ask them for their opinion. While other people in the thread certainly have good advice for trying to move out of the friend zone and in some cases it works perfectly fine, the friend zone is really something that shouldnt be a problem to begin with.

browng-08 · Post by **browng-08** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:49 am

This always works:

oVo · Post by **oVo** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:34 am

The curl's advice is decent as the 'friend zone' is not a bad place to be, you're young and there really is no rush, so don't act desperate. You should probably ask someone out who lives close to you... not to play games or try to make her jealous (that kind of bs is just dumb and will get you nowhere) but to have someone local who's company you enjoy and you can do things with... maybe you'll discover a new muse to chase after.

If you want to be romantically involved with the girl in the picture... you can't force it and can only make yourself available... and give it time develop.

FabledIntegral · Post by **FabledIntegral** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:16 am

nagerous wrote:You don't want to be friends?

I'm afraid the quickest way out is by hurting her, not physically (well that could work too ) but by just being honest "I don't want to be friends with you"

It's either that or move across the country.

as if - I'm not sure what game you have but the entire point is being suave - not upfront and awkward. Girls hate that.

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