conquer crater (ARTIST NEEDED)

[sinctheassasin]

this is a draft for a map, conquer crater. You win by controlling the center space for 1 turn. Currently we await the sticky and prominant draft stamp.
i have taken the role of programmer, and until we get a new artist, I will have to do that as well

first post requirements

number of territories- 34
number of continents-6 (only three receive bonuses)
unique gameplay- center wins when held, but may not attack.

gameplay

players start on the outer section of the map ( excluding B1, markets and Capitol heights.) players must work their way throgh the vehicles
and the radiated Zone( which gets -2 autodeploy) to get to the conqueronium in the center ( which starts with 30 neutrals) holding the center will start a reaction of primitive, desperate fighting for the center, because whoever holds the center
wins in 1 turn. In team games, teamwork is key, and with fog of war, you must allways keep a watchful eye over the center.

note! polls on this thread have been glitchy lately, please just post what you want to see happen! thanks!

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updates

april 22: thread started, Idea posted
april 22: first diagram posted
april 24: second draft posted
-"clusters" added
-"artillary" added
april 26: pictures for map suggested
april 27: wcaclimbing applies for artist job
-decided that center starts with 30 neutrals
may 7: crater texture created by wcaclimbing
May 30: wcaclimbing leaves artist job
-sinctheassasin (me) takes artist job
may 31: official first draft created-
territories placed on crater image using photoshop cs3
June 1: V2 released, artillary changed to gold
-all gold must be captured as an alternative to center to win
june-4 Izacque applies and is accepted for artist job.
June-6 draft revamp done by izacque
June-9 v4, legend added to side, arrows to center, story and title on bottom
color choices displayed
june-13 v4.5 released, camps added, metal texture applied to text.
June-20 v5 released, more scenery
July 2 v6 released, Izacque quits artist role
July 4 fredstick takes role of artist
July 4 fredstick quits role of artist
July 31 update v7 (reborn)
august 4 draft checklist
august 10- version 8
august 16- version 8.5

[sailorseal]

I think it is a interesting idea but could you tell us a little more, what is the theme?
A map of a asteroid? Crater caused by a meteor?

[sinctheassasin]

It could be like, a fictional crater, like

CONQUER CRATER

or sumthin like that.

I already have most of the xml done, i just need somebody to do the art.

here are the official rules so far:

there will be one center territory, and a ring of 36 territories. the ring will be divided into four equal quadrants. Each quadrant will have nine territories. the quadrants will be named top left quadrant, top right quadrant, bottom left quadrant, and bottom right quadrant.

the territs will be named acording to their quadrant, and they will have a number, according to their position on the quadrant. the territory on the highest point on the quadrant will be 1.

so, for example, the second highest territory on the top left quadrant, would be notated as
TL2.

Each quadrant will earn you 4 if you own all of the territories in it. the center will earn you one. the center will also have +1 deployed every turn.

all territories can attack the center, while the center can not attack anybody.

A player will win if they can hold the center for three . (can someone tell me if this can be done with xml?) if not, 1 turn should be reasonable, maybe you would have to control a certain number of territs from each quadrants.

again, any volunteers for artwork would be greatly appreciated.

[Fredstick]

this would be fun if its done right

[sailorseal]

Don't bother with the XML,maps go through a long process before that
This might be helpful:
Here
Here

[sinctheassasin]

I see what you are saying. I just thought that If i told people that a major part of the map was done, somebody would appear and give me a graphic to finish it on,

once we have the draft done, which will be when somebody submits a "slopy copy" we should be able to get the draft stamp.
gameplay stamp should be easy, since i already have all of the rules laid down, and nobody seems to contradict them so far.

me and the person who submited the rough draft of the map will then get together on a photo editing software and tidy it up, and we will take the comments of future posters.

once we have the graphics stamp, we get the final forge stamp

and at that point, I will probably have all of the information i need to finish the xml.

this is my first map, im sooooo excited that everybody seems to be interested in this idea so far

[sailorseal]

I see what you are saying. I just thought that If i told people that a major part of the map was done, somebody would appear and give me a graphic to finish it on,

Your not understanding, please read those links, the process is very different then you think

[sinctheassasin]

what i am getting out of these, is that you say that there are many steps in the process that can drastically change what the xml will look like. you are saying that you are worried that i might waste a lot of time making an xml, and then something might change, and then i would have to start over?

could you please elaborate a little bit plz, im new to this map making process.

[sailorseal]

what i am getting out of these, is that you say that there are many steps in the process that can drastically change what the xml will look like. you are saying that you are worried that i might waste a lot of time making an xml, and then something might change, and then i would have to start over?

could you please elaborate a little bit plz, im new to this map making process.

I am saying all of they above and more:
The map is first, don't even bother with the XML until much later, we need to know what this looks like, just a basic shape

[the.killing.44]

The map-making process takes months. You will recieve hundreds of comments, and obtaining stamps will be hard. So you have the right process, but add months onto that.

But don't despair! You have a lot of determination and I bet you can make it through

.44

[sinctheassasin]

thanks for the encouragement guys! I understand now that making a map is not a 1 step process.

I am confident however, that I will be able to make this map happen

I will take your advice and wait a bit for the xml.

thanks!

[sailorseal]

thanks for the encouragement guys! I understand now that making a map is not a 1 step process.

I am confident however, that I will be able to make this map happen

I will take your advice and wait a bit for the xml.

thanks!

So just make up a simple (Ugly) map that will just outline it, then someone can take it and make it wonderful

[sinctheassasin]

actually, i have found an artistic friend, who is also part of cc, fredstick

he has a version of photoshop, and i offered to have him make a rough draft

he will hopefully make a nice map to start, and he will go all the way.
even if he doesnt make a piece of modern art, im sure with a little fine tuning, it will be great. could someone who has experience please tell me exactly what will hapen once we have all of the rough draft stuff together. i just want to know in detail, thansk!!!

[sailorseal]

actually, i have found an artistic friend, who is also part of cc, fredstick

he has a version of photoshop, and i offered to have him make a rough draft

he will hopefully make a nice map to start, and he will go all the way.
even if he doesnt make a piece of modern art, im sure with a little fine tuning, it will be great. could someone who has experience please tell me exactly what will hapen once we have all of the rough draft stuff together. i just want to know in detail, thansk!!!

Well first if your draft meets

To be considered a Working Draft a project must be more than just an idea; a Draft should have a clear thematic focus, a plan for how the gameplay will work, and a basic image which should include:

1. Territory Labels - temporary names or numbers will suffice, and are always open to change.
2. Borders/Paths/Impassables - it should be made clear where territories do/do not connect.
3. Bonus Areas - where combinations/groups of territories will award a bonus, this should be indicated on the map.
4. Legend - speculative bonus values and explanations of any attack rules or gameplay features.

Draft images should not be larger than 630x600px (small image) or 840x800px (large image).

Meet this level and you can move to the next room.
After many drafts if you have completed:

While in the drafting room, it is expected that a mapmaker will demonstrate:

a. significant knowledge of graphics tools and techniques,
b. the willingness to consider and respond appropriately to critical feedback
c. the ability to make multiple changes based on ongoing feedback
d. a solid understanding of the Foundry standards and process.

A Draft will not be considered for promotion to the Main Foundry without the support of CC users. If a map is not considered by the Foundry community to offer something original and/or interesting in terms of gameplay, graphics, and theme, its production will not be encouraged.

Read this thread and learn about what you must do to finalize

[sinctheassasin]

ok, thanks for clarifying.

[sinctheassasin]

i just threw this together. It is horrible, but it should give people an idea about what this map is all about. dont forget that all territories can attack the center, but the center cannot attack anyone.

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[sinctheassasin]

also, it would be great if anybody reading this could spread the word to get more publicity and interest into this map

[john9blue]

i just threw this together. It is horrible, but it should give people an idea about what this map is all about. dont forget that all territories can attack the center, but the center cannot attack anyone.

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Symmetrical maps usually don't do well because people find them repetitive and boring. Think of what the strategy would be for this map:

- Find the quadrant you have the most guys in
- Form a string of territories
- Expand and take your quadrant
- When you have enough troops, go for the center

I could teach a monkey to do that! Maps like this rely a lot on luck- I am getting destroyed in a Chinese Checkers game right now because of shitty dice and a bad drop. That's not my idea of fun! Sorry.

[sinctheassasin]

hmmm, you are right, i too find it boreing to play on such a map.

maybe there could be two layers surrounding the crystal. each layer would have different clusters of territories that connected to each other. the inner ring could directly attack the center, while the outer ring could bombard it.

maybe we should make it so that there are other territories on the clusters that must also be controlled to win.

thanks for the suggestion, i'll tell fred to work it into the art.

[sailorseal]

hmmm, you are right, i too find it boreing to play on such a map.

maybe there could be two layers surrounding the crystal. each layer would have different clusters of territories that connected to each other. the inner ring could directly attack the center, while the outer ring could bombard it.

maybe we should make it so that there are other territories on the clusters that must also be controlled to win.

thanks for the suggestion, i'll tell fred to work it into the art.

I would make many layers of the crater to the center

[Hopscotcher]

This kind of reminds me of Oasis and 8 Thoughts.

I like the Conquorium and some of the touches you've put into it, though. If done well, the graphics could be cool with like land rovers and a shot of the stars above or something...

What if the map was more like a skidmark? everyone battling toward the front.

I think you also need more than 1 autodeploy to get people to want the Crystal. I think Crystal should be able to bombard all outer ring territories with Conquorium.

just my thoughts,
Hops

[Chevycarlo87]

it is good i like and good ideas are what the world is looking for and well he has one right here!

[sinctheassasin]

thanks, hey hopscotch, if you can do the graphics, go ahead, my friend might not be that great of an artist.

however, it is on earth, or at least, it probably will be. but if you can do something, go for it.

[Muhatbe]

sounds like a great idea, I look forward to seeing the drafts

[sinctheassasin]

ok, ive tried to incorperate as much as the suggestions that i could into this second layout plan.

ive added closed off territs that can bombard anywhere, as well as a bonus for the inner ring.

most rules from the last layout still apply
again, horrible,