Abortion is a Blessing!

[Snorri1234]

I think that you are mostly right. Maybe the best thing is just to be open with them and leave the decision to have sex up to them, it is their decision after all. But hopefully, with enough openness, they will include their parents in the decision so that they can get the best guidance. Its their life after all...

Well yeah that's the best to hope for. I know I could talk openly with my parents about sex and ask them everything, not that I ever had to but at least I wasn't scared to tell them I was having sex.

but I still don't think that the kids that are taught abstinence are the most likely to get pregnant. I think its the ones that fucked up their birth control either by not doing it correctly, or by neglecting it altogether. Just about everyone knows about birth control these days.

Well fucking up your birthcontrol is part of the abstinence-only problem. Kids know there is birth control, but because they were not taught how to use it properly they f*ck it up. When you teach abstinence-only kids will try to find out for themselves these things, which due to the age-old effect of warping gossip leads to kids not knowing anything about safe sex.

It's not the fact that they are taught abstinence, it's that they're taught nothing else. The ones who practice abstinence are ofcourse not the most likely to get pregnant, but the ones who don't practice it are.

It's a good thing that Obama plans to cut funding to Abstinence-only education in favor of comprehensive sex-ed with abstinence as an encouraged goal. Instead of telling kids not to have sex, they're gonna tell them that sex is no light thing and should not be just rushed in but if they are going to do it at least they'll know how to practice it safely.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1886558,00.html
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/05/07/the-end-of-abstinence-only/

[captain.crazy]

It's a good thing that Obama plans to cut funding to Abstinence-only education in favor of comprehensive sex-ed with abstinence as an encouraged goal.

LOL

OH!!! HAHAHAHA...

That mother fucker is going to be cutting funding all over the damn place soon!



He will have no choice.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I will read your articles later!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Snorri1234]

To be fair he's cutting it to fund something else. But at least it's a cut...

[captain.crazy]

To be fair he's cutting it to fund something else. But at least it's a cut...

Yeah! He is cutting it to fund the fucking bankers that got him elected!

[JJM]

I am Catholic

Sorry I am going of topic but I got a bit worried about how you all might react so I would like to clerify something. I do not come from the strict branch of Cathlicism. I do not come from the branch that for example forbids divorce (though that does not mean I am not Religous). Thank You for leting me clerify that.

[JJM]

I am Catholic.

Oh. I'm sorry.

No problem.

My condolences to your family, as well.

Apoligy acepted.

[Timminz]

I am Catholic

Sorry I am going of topic but I got a bit worried about how you all might react so I would like to clerify something. I do not come from the strict branch of Cathlicism. I do not come from the branch that for example forbids divorce (though that does not mean I am not Religous). Thank You for leting me clerify that.

There's that Catholic guilt.

[JJM]

I am Catholic

Sorry I am going of topic but I got a bit worried about how you all might react so I would like to clerify something. I do not come from the strict branch of Cathlicism. I do not come from the branch that for example forbids divorce (though that does not mean I am not Religous). Thank You for leting me clerify that.

There's that Catholic guilt.

Yes it did sound a bit odd but their are people who think that why.

[radiojake]

Give it time... Obama will want to sterilize crazy christian "breeders" before too long...

Hopefully he sterilises all 'breeders', not just the crazy christian ones. It'll stop this messy abortion debate which you guys seem so hung up on, and it'll help fix up the overpopulating human problem we have. RADIOJAKE FOR WORLD PRESIDENT

[JJM]

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09040205.html

Come on Episcopalians, that's total bullshit. A blessing? Give me a break!

I read some of that Article and to be fair you can't blame the whole Episcopalin Religion just because of what she said.

[captain.crazy]

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09040205.html

Come on Episcopalians, that's total bullshit. A blessing? Give me a break!

I read some of that Article and to be fair you can't blame the whole Episcopalin Religion just because of what she said.

Good point...

[JJM]

It seems like new crazy things like this keep on happening. I think they just start with a few crazy people just sitting around and think up absolutly ridiculous things like abortion, gay marrage and now selling eggs. Its time that the silent magority spoke up and got these people to remember there morals.

[captain.crazy]

It seems like new crazy things like this keep on happening. I think they just start with a few crazy people just sitting around and think up absolutly ridiculous things like abortion, gay marrage and now selling eggs. Its time that the silent magority spoke up and got these people to remember there morals.

Silent no more...

Unfortunately, our country is lost... our water is shit, our soil is shit, our air is shit... our food is shit...

Its all slathered with toxic waste like aspartame... that shit will kill you.

[radiojake]

It seems like new crazy things like this keep on happening. I think they just start with a few crazy people just sitting around and think up absolutly ridiculous things like abortion, gay marrage and now selling eggs. Its time that the silent magority spoke up and got these people to remember there morals.

A bit like all those crazy people who sit around reading a book they claim was written by a god and then spend their whole time trying to push their 2000 year old rhetoric onto everyone else. If i want to marry a man and have him sodomize my ass (and vice versa) who the f*ck are you to tell me to 'remember my morals'? How does it even effect you adversely? Plus we need more abortions happening (or even better, sterlizations) - You need a license for owning a dog but any fucktard can reproduce a baby?- go figure that one out. Abortion/Sterlization is definately the way to go - we're at the stage where less humans on this planet is better than more

[captain.crazy]

It seems like new crazy things like this keep on happening. I think they just start with a few crazy people just sitting around and think up absolutly ridiculous things like abortion, gay marrage and now selling eggs. Its time that the silent magority spoke up and got these people to remember there morals.

A bit like all those crazy people who sit around reading a book they claim was written by a god and then spend their whole time trying to push their 2000 year old rhetoric onto everyone else. If i want to marry a man and have him sodomize my ass (and vice versa) who the f*ck are you to tell me to 'remember my morals'? How does it even effect you adversely? Plus we need more abortions happening (or even better, sterlizations) - You need a license for owning a dog but any fucktard can reproduce a baby?- go figure that one out. Abortion/Sterlization is definately the way to go - we're at the stage where less humans on this planet is better than more

Why don't we just have a free killing day? We could all go out in the streets and kill anyone that we didn't like, or they could kill us. We could call it "National Revenge Day!" I could come and find you and we could just have it out, you know, a duel and stuff.

Or, maybe we could just sterilize you. We could snap a really thick, but tight rubber band around your ball sack. Sure to be good fun to watch them turn purple and fall off... I wonder if they would get itchy after a while.

[radiojake]

Why don't we just have a free killing day? We could all go out in the streets and kill anyone that we didn't like, or they could kill us. We could call it "National Revenge Day!" I could come and find you and we could just have it out, you know, a duel and stuff.

Because that is clearly what i was advocating. A feteus isn't a sentient being. Enough said

Or, maybe we could just sterilize you. We could snap a really thick, but tight rubber band around your ball sack. Sure to be good fun to watch them turn purple and fall off... I wonder if they would get itchy after a while.

I plan on getting sterlized a less painful way, but thank you for your offer.

[captain.crazy]

Why don't we just have a free killing day? We could all go out in the streets and kill anyone that we didn't like, or they could kill us. We could call it "National Revenge Day!" I could come and find you and we could just have it out, you know, a duel and stuff.

Because that is clearly what i was advocating. A feteus isn't a sentient being. Enough said

Is it when its 2 days old? Does it not become one? Are you sure that it isn't a sentient being?

Or, maybe we could just sterilize you. We could snap a really thick, but tight rubber band around your ball sack. Sure to be good fun to watch them turn purple and fall off... I wonder if they would get itchy after a while.

I plan on getting sterlized a less painful way, but thank you for your offer.
I'll be glad to do the procedure for you.

[JJM]

It seems like new crazy things like this keep on happening. I think they just start with a few crazy people just sitting around and think up absolutly ridiculous things like abortion, gay marrage and now selling eggs. Its time that the silent magority spoke up and got these people to remember there morals.

A bit like all those crazy people who sit around reading a book they claim was written by a god and then spend their whole time trying to push their 2000 year old rhetoric onto everyone else. If i want to marry a man and have him sodomize my ass (and vice versa) who the f*ck are you to tell me to 'remember my morals'? How does it even effect you adversely? Plus we need more abortions happening (or even better, sterlizations) - You need a license for owning a dog but any fucktard can reproduce a baby?- go figure that one out. Abortion/Sterlization is definately the way to go - we're at the stage where less humans on this planet is better than more

Why don't we just have a free killing day? We could all go out in the streets and kill anyone that we didn't like, or they could kill us. We could call it "National Revenge Day!" I could come and find you and we could just have it out, you know, a duel and stuff.

Or, maybe we could just sterilize you. We could snap a really thick, but tight rubber band around your ball sack. Sure to be good fun to watch them turn purple and fall off... I wonder if they would get itchy after a while.

The way you are sounding you might even fit into the catigory of crazy people who sit around and think up absolutly ridiculos things.

[captain.crazy]

It seems like new crazy things like this keep on happening. I think they just start with a few crazy people just sitting around and think up absolutly ridiculous things like abortion, gay marrage and now selling eggs. Its time that the silent magority spoke up and got these people to remember there morals.

A bit like all those crazy people who sit around reading a book they claim was written by a god and then spend their whole time trying to push their 2000 year old rhetoric onto everyone else. If i want to marry a man and have him sodomize my ass (and vice versa) who the f*ck are you to tell me to 'remember my morals'? How does it even effect you adversely? Plus we need more abortions happening (or even better, sterlizations) - You need a license for owning a dog but any fucktard can reproduce a baby?- go figure that one out. Abortion/Sterlization is definately the way to go - we're at the stage where less humans on this planet is better than more

Why don't we just have a free killing day? We could all go out in the streets and kill anyone that we didn't like, or they could kill us. We could call it "National Revenge Day!" I could come and find you and we could just have it out, you know, a duel and stuff.

Or, maybe we could just sterilize you. We could snap a really thick, but tight rubber band around your ball sack. Sure to be good fun to watch them turn purple and fall off... I wonder if they would get itchy after a while.

The way you are sounding you might even fit into the catigory of crazy people who sit around and think up absolutly ridiculos things.

sorry, I should have put the sarcasm tags on there for you.

[jonesthecurl]

"Freedom for all! Rawr! Oh, except for women, and their reproductive organs. If we let them make their own decisions regarding their bodies, they might start thinking they have a say in society."

Can hypocrisy be considered ironic?

Let's keep it real shall we? Abortion isn't about the rights over a woman's "reproductive organs", no one's trying to take them away. It's about having the right to murder. That is what abortion is. Abortion is the right to murder. Anyone who says this is not the case is in some serious denial.

Give it time... Obama will want to sterilize crazy christian "breeders" before too long...

I'm glad you said that, captain, you were in danger of making sense for a second there.

Abstinence-only education is a silly thing, and won't ever work.
But (although it might lead to higher pregnancy rates, and therefore possibly to higher abortion rates), that is not relevant to the question of whether abortion is morally defensible.

Abortion itself is more than one question:
among others -

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus just because you don't want it and didn't use contraceptives?

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus because the contraceptives failed?

Because you're under age?

Because you were raped?

Because the fetus isn't the sort of baby you want? (wrong sex, other reasons)

Because the fetus has some defect? (how defective does it have to be to jusitfy this?)

Because carrying it to term endangers the mother?

Because it is one of a large number that were fertilized during fertility treatments?

Because you already have too many children?

And above all, who decides? Both on the question of whether a particular type of abortion is permissible, and in a particular case? (lawmakers, politicians, religious types, the girl, the father, the girl's parents?)

[radiojake]

And above all, who decides? Both on the question of whether a particular type of abortion is permissible, and in a particular case? (lawmakers,politicians,religious types, the girl, the father,the girl's parents?)

Them and them alone.. and hopefully (god willing.. haha) they will choose to abort, because we have too many breeders as it is...

[Skittles!]

A bit like all those crazy people who sit around reading a book they claim was written by a god and then spend their whole time trying to push their 2000 year old rhetoric onto everyone else. If i want to marry a man and have him sodomize my ass (and vice versa) who the f*ck are you to tell me to 'remember my morals'? How does it even effect you adversely? Plus we need more abortions happening (or even better, sterlizations) - You need a license for owning a dog but any fucktard can reproduce a baby?- go figure that one out. Abortion/Sterlization is definately the way to go - we're at the stage where less humans on this planet is better than more

Sterilisations..

Anyway, Jake, you should read "The Last Albatross" by Ian Irvine (Australia Author if you don't know him) if you're into science fiction. It's very interesting. Well, the overall idea of it, not what actually partakes in it.

[captain.crazy]

Abstinence-only education is a silly thing, and won't ever work.
But (although it might lead to higher pregnancy rates, and therefore possibly to higher abortion rates), that is not relevant to the question of whether abortion is morally defensible.

Abortion itself is more than one question:
among others -

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus just because you don't want it and didn't use contraceptives? No

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus because the contraceptives failed? No

Because you're under age? No

Because you were raped? Possibly

Because the fetus isn't the sort of baby you want? (wrong sex, other reasons) No

Because the fetus has some defect? (how defective does it have to be to jusitfy this?) No

Because carrying it to term endangers the mother? Yes

Because it is one of a large number that were fertilized during fertility treatments? If it qualifies as endangering the mother...

Because you already have too many children? NO

And above all, who decides? Both on the question of whether a particular type of abortion is permissible, and in a particular case? (lawmakers, politicians, religious types, the girl, the father, the girl's parents?)

[Timminz]

Abstinence-only education is a silly thing, and won't ever work.
But (although it might lead to higher pregnancy rates, and therefore possibly to higher abortion rates), that is not relevant to the question of whether abortion is morally defensible.

Abortion itself is more than one question:
among others -

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus just because you don't want it and didn't use contraceptives? No

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus because the contraceptives failed? No

Because you're under age? No

Because you were raped? Possibly

Because the fetus isn't the sort of baby you want? (wrong sex, other reasons) No

Because the fetus has some defect? (how defective does it have to be to jusitfy this?) No

Because carrying it to term endangers the mother? Yes

Because it is one of a large number that were fertilized during fertility treatments? If it qualifies as endangering the mother...

Because you already have too many children? NO

And above all, who decides? Both on the question of whether a particular type of abortion is permissible, and in a particular case? (lawmakers, politicians, religious types, the girl, the father, the girl's parents?)

Well, I'm glad we've sorted that one out. Good work team. Meet back here tomorrow, and we can move on to discussing the morality involved in cloning.

[Frigidus]

Abstinence-only education is a silly thing, and won't ever work.
But (although it might lead to higher pregnancy rates, and therefore possibly to higher abortion rates), that is not relevant to the question of whether abortion is morally defensible.

Abortion itself is more than one question:
among others -

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus just because you don't want it and didn't use contraceptives? No

Is it moral to abort a viable fetus because the contraceptives failed? No

Because you're under age? No

Because you were raped? Possibly

Because the fetus isn't the sort of baby you want? (wrong sex, other reasons) No

Because the fetus has some defect? (how defective does it have to be to jusitfy this?) No

Because carrying it to term endangers the mother? Yes

Because it is one of a large number that were fertilized during fertility treatments? If it qualifies as endangering the mother...

Because you already have too many children? NO

And above all, who decides? Both on the question of whether a particular type of abortion is permissible, and in a particular case? (lawmakers, politicians, religious types, the girl, the father, the girl's parents?)

Well, I'm glad we've sorted that one out. Good work team. Meet back here tomorrow, and we can move on to discussing the morality involved in cloning.

It's amazing, the problems you can solve with just one syllable.