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mpjh wrote:I agree with you on that. A successful school program for low-income families has to include education for the parents to give them some basic skills to support the children. Problem is that, in such families, both parent usually work and sometimes at two jobs apiece -- I know my parents did. I volunteer at a mentor program that tries to help the parent engage in their children's education, but it is tough going for working parents.


I'm in a similar mentor program - helping smart kids get into good colleges. But, my current mentee's mother is quite involved, which I think is further proof that parental involvement can only help.
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Shivas wrote:Now that the Wanda thread has worked its way over to something I finally know something about let me add this. Any type of vouchers for private schools, schools of choice, or anything else that allows the movement of students to whatever type of school, in my opinion, is no more than a class and economic segregation. Families that can afford to transport their children can and will take advantage of this choice to what they perceive as "better" schools. The families that cannot will be left at their neighborhood school. Good or bad. Any private school that accepts federal, state or local monies (read vouchers) is a public school and provide public education in my opinion.

People who support vouchers are in reality are supporting a return to segregated schools. Civil rights activists like King, Parks, Marshall, and Evers fought for years and sacrificed their lives to level educational opportunities for all people, of all races, of all socio-economic classes. The Brown v. Board of Education case summed it all up. On May 17, 1954, Chief Justice Earl Warren read the decision of the unanimous Court:

"We come then to the question presented: Does segregation of children in public schools solely on the basis of race, even though the physical facilities and other "tangible" factors may be equal, deprive the children of the minority group of equal educational opportunities? We believe that it does...We conclude that in the field of public education the doctrine of 'separate but equal' has no place. Separate educational facilities are inherently unequal. Therefore, we hold that the plaintiffs and others similarly situated for whom the actions have been brought are, by reason of the segregation complained of, deprived of the equal protection of the laws guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment."

Substitute class for race and you get my drift.

I don't know the answer, but I sure know a bad idea when I see it.


I don't see it that way. I think that if you see a school that omits children based on race, than you have grounds for investigation. But somewhere, I have to draw the line when you suggest that parents that can't afford to get their children to a place of education is anyone's fault but those parents. Don't think of the term fault as to say blame, I don't mean it that way... but what you are illustrating here is the very core of the problem in public schools... You are suggesting that chaining all of the children together in a failing system is better over all for everyone. To that I say BULLSHIT! If a parent cannot transport their child to a place of education, then it is up to them to either make the sacrifice to find a way, or to keep their kids in the state run school that they are currently in. I do not think that it is too much to ask that a parent do something to contribute to the development and well being of their children... They are, after all, their responsibility.
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thegreekdog wrote:I am surprised Wanda did not make a joke about homosexuality, especially considering that the president does not seem to want to do anything about the issue.


Do anything about the issue? LMAO... Like what?
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Nobunaga wrote:
mpjh wrote:As usual you make no sense. I don't think Lucy should waste time on a response.


... This is the only portion of the post waiting for an actual response:

Just out of curiosity, how is Bush racist? What are these quotes you speak of? He did enstate the first African American Secretary of State. He had what was probably the most racially diverse administration of all time...

... And I would like to see a response as well. GW's cabinet was the most ethnically diverse in (US) history. I want to see some hard evidence of Bush's racist attitude.

...


Lack of response to Katrina?
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hatchman wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I am surprised Wanda did not make a joke about homosexuality, especially considering that the president does not seem to want to do anything about the issue.


Do anything about the issue? LMAO... Like what?


I understand that the homosexual community is perturbed that he has not come out and said anything with respect to gay marriage since he was elected. I just thought Wanda could have made a good joke at the president's expense on that issue.
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Most comics don't make jokes about the president or the administration at this banquet (at least not about any important issues). The exception comes when you are so thick-headed you hire a comedian who makes fun of you on a nightly basis (Stephen Colbert).
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AgentSmith88 wrote:Most comics don't make jokes about the president or the administration at this banquet (at least not about any important issues). The exception comes when you are so thick-headed you hire a comedian who makes fun of you on a nightly basis (Stephen Colbert).


Sure, but when Bush was in office, he made fun of himself - "Where are those blasted WMD's" and Laura bush referenced something about how George milked bulls. About the only thing that I can say about Bush that is not a criticism is the fact that I do not believe that he took himself so seriously that he couldn't make a joke about himself. Something that Obama's over inflated ego will not allow.
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captain.crazy wrote:
AgentSmith88 wrote:Most comics don't make jokes about the president or the administration at this banquet (at least not about any important issues). The exception comes when you are so thick-headed you hire a comedian who makes fun of you on a nightly basis (Stephen Colbert).


Sure, but when Bush was in office, he made fun of himself - "Where are those blasted WMD's" and Laura bush referenced something about how George milked bulls. About the only thing that I can say about Bush that is not a criticism is the fact that I do not believe that he took himself so seriously that he couldn't make a joke about himself. Something that Obama's over inflated ego will not allow.

I don't know about that. That is to say, I'm sure his ego is over inflated, but he still seems to have a pretty good sense of humor (even about himself).
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What does it mean when the President of the United States is sitting there laughing as a comedian suggests that Rush Limbaugh was the 20th terrorist of 9-11 and that she wishes that Limbaugh's kidneys would fail and that he should be waterboarded?


It means Americans have gotten stupider over the last few decades. 20 years ago, nobody could be elected by promising "hope and change".
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Mr Scorpio wrote:
What does it mean when the President of the United States is sitting there laughing as a comedian suggests that Rush Limbaugh was the 20th terrorist of 9-11 and that she wishes that Limbaugh's kidneys would fail and that he should be waterboarded?


It means Americans have gotten stupider over the last few decades. 20 years ago, nobody could be elected by promising "hope and change".


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You both are dense as posts. Roosevelt (both of them), Lincoln, Kennedy, Carter, and Eisenhower were all elected on promises of change, and hope for the future.
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mpjh wrote:You both are dense as posts. Roosevelt (both of them), Lincoln, Kennedy, Carter, and Eisenhower were all elected on promises of change, and hope for the future.


Was there a point there? I admittedly do not know much about the campaign promises of the Presidents that you listed, but I would bet that there was more substance to them than anything that Obama promised. Liberals thought that they were getting a liberal, moderates thought they were getting a moderate... but what they really got was business as usual... a self serving tyrant that is spending us out of business at clearly unsustainable levels.
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mpjh wrote:You both are dense as posts. Roosevelt (both of them), Lincoln, Kennedy, Carter, and Eisenhower were all elected on promises of change, and hope for the future.


Actually, I think Lincoln ran on a platform of not changing anything so as to not anger the southern states. Right after his election, the southerners got all pissy and seceded.
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captain.crazy wrote:
mpjh wrote:You both are dense as posts. Roosevelt (both of them), Lincoln, Kennedy, Carter, and Eisenhower were all elected on promises of change, and hope for the future.


Was there a point there? I admittedly do not know much about the campaign promises of the Presidents that you listed, but I would bet that there was more substance to them than anything that Obama promised. Liberals thought that they were getting a liberal, moderates thought they were getting a moderate... but what they really got was business as usual... a self serving tyrant that is spending us out of business at clearly unsustainable levels.


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Mr Scorpio wrote:
What does it mean when the President of the United States is sitting there laughing as a comedian suggests that Rush Limbaugh was the 20th terrorist of 9-11 and that she wishes that Limbaugh's kidneys would fail and that he should be waterboarded?


It means Americans have gotten stupider over the last few decades. 20 years ago, nobody could be elected by promising "hope and change".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realigning_election#United_States

captain.crazy wrote:Was there a point there? I admittedly do not know much about the campaign promises of the Presidents that you listed, but I would bet that there was more substance to them than anything that Obama promised. Liberals thought that they were getting a liberal, moderates thought they were getting a moderate... but what they really got was business as usual... a self serving tyrant that is spending us out of business at clearly unsustainable levels.


for most of america's history presidential candidates did not even campaign for themselves.

then there's plenty of elections that turned out like this
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