Conqueropoly [Back!]

[ManBungalow]

I like the idea behind this map, but I think you need to work some more regions into it if your map is to become a success.

[captainwalrus]

it sort of looks distorted in some areas. For example, the red bonus on the legend is all smudged and it makes the value unreadable.
Is it saved as a jpeg? I find that .png's come out better quality.

[darkangelsguy205]

wait i thought we changed somethings and when is this going to become a map

[captainwalrus]

wait i thought we changed somethings and when is this going to become a map

It takes a long time for a draft to become a map, it needs to be approved for Gameplay, Graphics and xml, which takes usually no shorter than 6 months, but if people give good feedback it goes a lot faster!

[Gilligan]

I like the idea behind this map, but I think you need to work some more regions into it if your map is to become a success.

Care to elaborate?

[Pedronicus]

So the site has got round the copyright problem then?

I like the idea behind this map

What idea is that then? stealing a famous board game layout and renaming parts of the board? Yeah! - in the world of ideas, this has to be the laziest idea ever.



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I must go to the tool shed this weekend and invent a round device that would help move heavy loads....

[phantomzero]

So the site has got round the copyright problem then?

I like the idea behind this map

What idea is that then? stealing a famous board game layout and renaming parts of the board? Yeah! - in the world of ideas, this has to be the laziest idea ever.



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I must go to the tool shed this weekend and invent a round device that would help move heavy loads....

I think this map could considered a heavy load.

[Gilligan]

Umm...anybody?

[danfrank]

So the site has got round the copyright problem then?

I like the idea behind this map

What idea is that then? stealing a famous board game layout and renaming parts of the board? Yeah! - in the world of ideas, this has to be the laziest idea ever.



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I must go to the tool shed this weekend and invent a round device that would help move heavy loads....

I have an idea , it may be round or even oval , but we could call it a toilet.. That may get rid of a heavy load..

also another bite off hasbro was conquer4

[SuicidalSnowman]

I like it so far, I think the biggest key element is that there are lots of borders on different territories, to prevent players from holding one key territory.

I think if anything gameplay related, it would be more smaller bonus areas, rather than fewer large ones.

The reason I say this is I think the best way to work this is to allow for lots of mobility, not allow one person to hold one bonus and steamroll everyone. I don't know how everyone else feels.

I think the CC logo (where I assume Go would be in the other game) should be an auto-deploy.

Attack Multis and Multi are sort of silly. Unless you are an idiot and more troops into Multis, its sort of a non-territory, and could just make for increased deadbeating. What happens when someone is killed everywhere but at Multis? Since they have to deploy 3 each turn, no one else would want to waste troops killing them. But since they can't attack anywhere, they can't do anything, except build up an army that eventually needs to be taken done roll by roll. Seems sort of pointless to me.

And before we argue "San Fransisco has Alcatraz!!!" I think they are used very differently. Alcatraz has three entrances, making it more accessible, and is part of a bonus system, providing incentive to go out there.

I think it would be really cool if a set of three territories were called "classic" "Shapes" and "art"

[barterer2002]

OK, in the legend you refer to advertising but on the board its called referrals. Needs to be consistent.

I don't like that the Admin/Mod terts are worth +4. There are just 3 terts there (assuming that the -1 is also included) and should be lesser. I really don't think that any of them should be +4 because they're all smallish with easy to hold borders. You're setting it up for stalemates. I'm not sure why nobody can attack the multis except the attack multis.

Anyway, the problem with a board like this one is that its far to linear IMO. I know you've got things like cards, dice and RRs that attack across but while I like Monopoly itself, I'm not sure that it translates well into a CC map.

[thenobodies80]

[Moved]

It would appear that development of this map has stalled. If the mapmaker wants to continue with the map, then one of the Foundry Moderators will be able to help put the thread back into the Foundry system, after an update has been made.

[number five]

dude make it u totally shud like if i were u id just put it up as bete all redy

[TheSaxlad]

Previous Versions

V1:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2444/c ... legend.png

V2:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4308 ... egend2.png
V2:
-Added CC Star

V3:
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3173 ... nd3cur.png

V3
-Added Moody's av to online community
-changed rules wording
-made blue at bottom lighter
-changed autodeploy in rules
-changed ship names
-put symbols on cards
-General board tidy up.

V4:
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4729 ... nd4cur.png


V4:
-Changed Battleships to cars
-added tourny's over chatters
-named the unamed square
-changed free army to troop across map
-changed wording of attack multi's to bust

V5:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5768 ... nd5inp.png

V5:
-added house graphics

V6:
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6971 ... nd6inp.png

V6:
-Changed Legend Wording
-Slightly Cleaned Up Legend
-Put Cartographers names in different place (views please)
-Slightly changed yellow, may have to change more.

V6.1:

Click image to enlarge.

V6.1:
-Slight Wording Change in Legend.

V6.2

Click image to enlarge.

V6.2
-Changed cars to monopoly trains.





To Do (Now): Change Legend To Trains




To Do (Later):

Fix/Change Names (Graphics Workshop)
Update House Graphics (Graphics Workshop)


Gameplay Breakdown (Subject To Change)

- Conquest Style Map
- 8 Colours, one House in each Colour is a starting postition the rest are neutrals. (Major Flaw Spotted! Bonuses are different amounts of troops, so would be easier for the drop on a more troop bonus?)
-Can Attack any way around the Board (Although people have a stated a more monopoly like attack upto 12 around the board. Is this possible?)
- Bonuses for Horseshoes and Moodys includes ALL Moody and Horseshoe spaces. The card decks work like a one way attack similar to Alcatraz in SanFran.
-To gain a bonus you have to hold all colours and all houses.

Starting Positions
-Profile House
-Start Game House
-Student House
-Busted House
-Live Chat House
-Suggz and Buggz House
-Clans House
-Mods House

Also Toying with the idea of putting troops on the trains and the lucky Horsehoes.

N.B The Other type of Gameplay available for this map is if I were to enlarge the table around it and put pieces on the table that attacked the conquerstar (similar to baseball, kod) and then they could attack up to 12 squares around the board. When this gets out of the bin, ill stick a poll up.
Here it is again, please comment and put this map through the foundry, thanks.

TheSaxlad/Gilligan

[TheSaxlad]

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 3&t=128705

this has been revived in this thread.

[Leehar]

nice premise

[army of nobunaga]

"Free Army" for the win baby!

[Army of GOD]

That territ's referring to me

[Army of GOD]

I think it would be more interesting if you made them 1-way attacks clockwise, like in the real game that isn't in anyway related to this map due to copyright issues.

[Victor Sullivan]

Hey, neat-o idea! Some suggestions:

1. You're going to have to have a lot of starting neutrals to avoid people dropping bonuses. Will that be a problem?
2. Not crazy about the symbols used for the Luck Deck and the Online Community (the orange power button and the horseshoes). I'd suggest dice for the Luck Deck symbol (for obvious reasons) and either the CC logo or a smiley (maybe MrMoody's smiley) for the Online Community.
3. Instead of "Attack Multis" and "Multis" maybe have something like "Multi Hunters" and "Forum Ban" or something similar.
4. What does the star space do?
5. You think you could give the battleships names instead of numbers?
6. The Luck Deck and the Online Community "decks" in the middle should have their respective symbols on them.
7. For the "property" names. you could name them after the different forums and teams (g.e. "Cartographers" and "Suggestions") I see you've already done that a little.
8. Isn't Multis a bad thing (like the "jail" of M*nopoly)? Why do you get a bonus? Oo, maybe try something like -1 troop per turn for holding just Multis (or "Forum Ban" or whatever you decide to make it) and +3 for holding both Multis and Attack Multis, like you have.
9. For the Luck Deck and Online Community bonuses - Are they awarded for holding all three territories on the decks in the center of the board or do you have to have the spaces on the board "track" or what? It's not really clear as to what you need to have to acquire those bonuses.
10. For the "Horseshoes and Power Button..." thing in the legend, the word should be "respectively", not "consecutively".
11. More of a nitpick - the blue used for the three blue territories at the bottom should be a much lighter blue.
12. The horseshoe space at the bottom should be switched with the deadbeat space at the bottom.

That's all for now I think this'll be a great map!

Cheers,
Sully

[whitestazn88]

Agree with AoG about the one way attacking around the board. I don't think it should have to be made obvious, as most people would get the premise, but it's better to be safe than sorry.

[sonicsteve]

Wonderful - my other favourite board game.

Can I throw some stuff into the ideas pot, here?

How about making the bonuses 1 for the brown and light blue sets, 2 for pink and orange, 3 for red and yellow and 4 for green and purple/dark blue.

This would more closely resemble the property values on the board game and lead to some very interesting strategies - i.e. a very hotly contested bonus on the high value properties.

If you do go for a one way around the board attack style, then in keeping with the board game every region should be able to attack up to 12 regions in front of it. Would be mayhem of course...

[TheSaxlad]

Ok Guys I'm going to attempt to answer your questions:

I think it would be more interesting if you made them 1-way attacks clockwise, like in the real game that isn't in anyway related to this map due to copyright issues.

And for all those who suggested this, I see why but it would end up like circus maximus except with one lane, the amount of stalemates would be amazing and I wish to avoid that.

Hey, neat-o idea! Some suggestions:

1. You're going to have to have a lot of starting neutrals to avoid people dropping bonuses. Will that be a problem?

I don't think so because when people drop bonuses on other maps they can get it back. The only bonuses that can be dropped with no chance of breaking are the rh corner bonuses and there worth only ones.

2. Not crazy about the symbols used for the Luck Deck and the Online Community (the orange power button and the horseshoes). I'd suggest dice for the Luck Deck symbol (for obvious reasons) and either the CC logo or a smiley (maybe MrMoody's smiley) for the Online Community.

I'm open to suggestions on this, I like the moody idea, that would be good, but im not sure about dice for luck, I wanted to stay away from dice because as you can see on the previous conqueropoly mapI don't think it worked.

4. What does the star space do?

starts neutral and gives you plus 2 like the free army, except the free army gives you 1.

5. You think you could give the battleships names instead of numbers?

I can't see how to fit the writing in without going outside the space. any suggs please say.

9. For the Luck Deck and Online Community bonuses - Are they awarded for holding all three territories on the decks in the center of the board or do you have to have the spaces on the board "track" or what? It's not really clear as to what you need to have to acquire those bonuses.

You have to get all signs and all three card spaces. i think that the bonuses should go up...

12. The horseshoe space at the bottom should be switched with the deadbeat space at the bottom.

I would, however that would make it too much like that dreaded board game of which noone will speak of in this thread.

That's all for now I think this'll be a great map!

After all that im glad you think so...

How about making the bonuses 1 for the brown and light blue sets, 2 for pink and orange, 3 for red and yellow and 4 for green and purple/dark blue.

I would but this would mean that taking two territories would give you 4 extra armies, and if you were to get the bonus from the start the game would be over.

If you do go for a one way around the board attack style, then in keeping with the board game every region should be able to attack up to 12 regions in front of it. Would be mayhem of course...

Again and thats another reason why im not planning to do it, however if anyone can find a way for it to work im open.

[TheSaxlad]

New edit up.

[sonicsteve]

Expect a lot of constructive criticism from me on this, cos I love the idea.

Couple of things on the rules:

1. the word consecutively, should actually be respectively I think. OR, something more like "Horseshoes & Power Buttons one-way attack their own cards; Each card space is a dead-end. Hold all group symbols for bonus", and back that up by putting the symbols on the cards.

2. the autodeploys could be more clearly shown in the rules by having the free army symbol just saying +1 autodeploy in the text next to it and the cc symbol with a +2 autodeploy.

Also,

3. Should the attack-multis square have an army circle on it?

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4. If you do want to use battleship names, just get rid of the 'battleship x' and replace with relatively short names of battle ships. 'HMS Victory' or 'HMS Valiant' should easily fit in, 'USS Arizona', 'USS Iowa' or 'USS Maine' would be no problem and 'Potemkin' could be a contender. The battleship graphic could be a lot better, but I guess that comes later.