Rorke's Drift. [QUENCHED]

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:21 pm

Um, now that I take another look, yes here:

The top part of this rock looks as if it is floating above the ground where the dry river bed is. This is a minor concern as it could be overhanging the dry river.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:45 pm

isaiah40 wrote:Um, now that I take another look, yes here:

The top part of this rock looks as if it is floating above the ground where the dry river bed is. This is a minor concern as it could be overhanging the dry river.

Done the arrows, will do that now, anything else?

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:51 pm

EDIT: Nevermind, sorry about that. My browser didn't refresh the topic properly and I responded to something long since resolved.

Why so many fonts in the legend? The font for the 'careful' warning portion stands out the most. Would prefer if everything were closer to the font used to explain the special territories.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:07 pm

Coleman wrote:EDIT: Nevermind, sorry about that. My browser didn't refresh the topic properly and I responded to something long since resolved.

Why so many fonts in the legend? The font for the 'careful' warning portion stands out the most. Would prefer if everything were closer to the font used to explain the special territories.

No problem Coleman, glad to see you look in.

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Arrows should be OK now. If not, I will re do completely.
Rock moved down a tad so it is now not overhanging the dry river bed.

Anything else???

RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:24 pm

The arrows look blurry more than anything. Could decrease the opacity a bit and have them fade into the background a little which might help.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:30 pm

Will get them redone completely from scratch. Will post them in a couple of hours.

Gillipig · Post by **Gillipig** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:32 pm

I'm not sure I like the white edge around the borders! It's clearer but I don't think it goes well with the theme. It looks a bit like roads.

Coleman · Post by **Coleman** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:34 pm

Gillipig wrote:I'm not sure I like the white edge around the borders! It's clearer but I don't think it goes well with the theme. It looks a bit like roads.

I agree with this. Not all suggestions for change end up looking better than the original. Was still good to see what it would look like. I'd say change them back at this point.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:37 pm

Coleman wrote:
Gillipig wrote:I'm not sure I like the white edge around the borders! It's clearer but I don't think it goes well with the theme. It looks a bit like roads.

I agree with this. Not all suggestions for change end up looking better than the original. Was still good to see what it would look like. I'd say change them back at this point.

Go to first post, previous versions, the black line one is around half way down in big image tags so it is easy to spot. I took them off and everyone said to put them back so they will stay.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:20 pm

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New arrows as not getting the original ones to work well. Plain black ones for this version. Seem to suit the map so might just keep them this way if no one has objections.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:24 pm

i don't like the new arrows. they contrast with the map so much that my eyes are always going towards them. i can't look at anything else because i'm immediately distracted by the arrows. also on the large there are very visible texture gaps. places where the black filling of the arrows doesn't go all the way to the edge.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:26 pm

Scrap them then.

Will have another go tomorrow as it is late here and my eyes are hurting. Leave all points and I will get to them all in the morning.

Have a good one guys.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:43 pm

how about something like these arrows?
[bigimg]http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/DiM-topia/sdriftlarge-2.jpg[/bigimg]

if you want them, just import this image: http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/DiM-topia/sdriftlarge-1.png

lostatlimbo · Post by **lostatlimbo** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:56 pm

koontz1973 wrote:
Sniper08 wrote:tree's dont look good like bushes , revert back to fix as nothin was wrong with old trees imo.

I probably will do, but will keep these for a day or two to see is anyone else comments on them.
As I said on the previous page, I have no problem trying something new but I believe the need now for consistency till a mod comments. Lets see if lostinlimbo comes back to say something.

I don't think that really helped the problem.

Allow me to clarify:

I think the old trees look fine. They have a sort of hand-drawn cartoon-y charm to them that matches the soldiers, warriors and chiefs.

The bushes however are a completely different style and POV. They don't fit the map. AT ALL.This one style of bush that DiM suggested is not the only option.

Did you draw the trees yourself? Why can't you draw some bushes in a similar style?
If you copied the trees from another source, it shouldn't be too difficult to modify them and make them look more like bushes IN THE SAME STYLE AS THE REST OF THE MAP.

You've already got a great overall theme/look to this map, but then you keep throwing in elements that just don't fit.

Then again, no one else seems to care, so... as you wish.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:53 am

lostatlimbo wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
Sniper08 wrote:tree's dont look good like bushes , revert back to fix as nothin was wrong with old trees imo.

I probably will do, but will keep these for a day or two to see is anyone else comments on them.
As I said on the previous page, I have no problem trying something new but I believe the need now for consistency till a mod comments. Lets see if lostinlimbo comes back to say something.

I don't think that really helped the problem.

Allow me to clarify:

I think the old trees look fine. They have a sort of hand-drawn cartoon-y charm to them that matches the soldiers, warriors and chiefs.

The bushes however are a completely different style and POV. They don't fit the map. AT ALL.This one style of bush that DiM suggested is not the only option.

Did you draw the trees yourself? Why can't you draw some bushes in a similar style?
If you copied the trees from another source, it shouldn't be too difficult to modify them and make them look more like bushes IN THE SAME STYLE AS THE REST OF THE MAP.

You've already got a great overall theme/look to this map, but then you keep throwing in elements that just don't fit.

Then again, no one else seems to care, so... as you wish.

I modified the bushes but will have another crack at them today.

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:01 am

DiM wrote:how about something like these arrows?
[bigimg]http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/DiM-topia/sdriftlarge-2.jpg[/bigimg]

if you want them, just import this image: http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/DiM-topia/sdriftlarge-1.png

Those are some sweet looking arrows there DiM. If my current ones do not get the seal of approval, I may just nick them from you.

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New bushes as the old ones were too fancy for the map. Did not go back to original ones as they where too plain (green blobs) so went for a mixture in between.
New arrows. Went with completely new ones with a mixture of brown and green. Should suit the map better.

Anything else?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:32 am

nice arrows, but they look kinda glossy to me. they make me think of something high tech not a zulu map.

Sniper08 · Post by **Sniper08** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:38 am

i like Dim's blue arrows, they looked great and fit in really well.

i think these bushes are too bright for the map and kinda look like green blobs

Gillipig · Post by **Gillipig** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:51 am

The bushes are getting better but still needs some work! I too like DiM's arrows! Your new arrows are nice but doesn't really fit the map. What has happen with the text explaining the autodecay? It looked better before!

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:02 am

Sniper08 wrote:i like Dim's blue arrows, they looked great and fit in really well.

i think these bushes are too bright for the map and kinda look like green blobs

Will dull the bushes a bit but they need contrast with the green iButhos because of the CB test.
Will use DiMs arrows then.

Gillipig wrote:The bushes are getting better but still needs some work! I too like DiM's arrows! Your new arrows are nice but doesn't really fit the map. What has happen with the text explaining the autodecay? It looked better before!

Nothing has happened with the text.

If you mean the glow going around the letters, it cam out as I had too many styles in the legend. Will put it back in for all text next time around. Give me a couple of hours to fix these things.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:15 am

I agree that DiM's arrows work better. They just pop more.

TaCktiX · Post by **TaCktiX** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:22 am

Quick nitpick on your legend: "Be careful with your armies. Each territory..."

And DiM's arrows pop more, but I would suggest if you take the idea, not to make them all black. It doesn't work with the earthy color palette you have.

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:26 am

This is getting there! a few other nitpicks:

These need the border to be more fluid like the rest of your borders.

The one line goes over the other line. There are a couple of others like this, where all you need to do is take your eraser tool and erase where it goes over the other border line.

Here it looks like you stopped, and then continued drawing the line. There are a couple of other places where this happens as well.

Keep up the good work koontz!

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:04 am

TaCktiX wrote:Quick nitpick on your legend: "Be careful with your armies. Each territory..."

And DiM's arrows pop more, but I would suggest if you take the idea, not to make them all black. It doesn't work with the earthy color palette you have.

Missed this when I came to read the posts. Not fixed but will be done.
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Done.
DiM's arrows.
Territ lines.
Bushes
Glow

To do tonight.
Fix the wording in the legend that TaCktiX spotted.
Anything else before I get to it???

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:14 am

Missed the Mandla/River border!

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