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Lionz wrote:
Player,
Died choking on other fish and then managed to avoid being found by scavengers and aerobic decomposers and anaerobic decomposers before fossilizing?
Pretty much. Not playing the word game here, though. Fact is a test tube that looks superfically the same as a picture of Bryce proves nothing.. but knowing that takes understanding a tad bit of real science.Lionz wrote:Also, each of the layers in Bryce has layers within it?
My answers to the above, among other points.. but I am NOT getting dragged into another discussion of that here. Go visit that thread and actually read my answers this time.Lionz wrote: And? How about find me an example of something I ignored in a young Earth Creationism thread?
Would it be fair to use quotes expressing that creationist's belief in recent variation as evidence that they support Darwinian evolution? Would that be wrong?Lionz wrote:Neoteny,
Is there a creationist who argues that chihuahuas and great danes share no common ancestry? Does it not seem like creatures actually bring forth variety kind of fast if you consider how many dog breeds existed 1,000 years ago?
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Lionz wrote: Player,
How would creatures regularly manage to sit on the bottom of bodies of water (choking or not) and get buried from slow accumulation of sediment without being eaten by other fish or aerobic or anaerobic decomposers, if you claim that's the case?
Instead, try finding one case where you actually answered a question I posed? The above is about as close as you have EVER come.Lionz wrote:
And how about let me know if you actually find even a single question to me that I failed to address or move on?
Holy shit, how did I miss this? Lionz! Tell us about your opinions!Maugena wrote:Oh my fucking god! Lionz IS STILL HERE! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!Lionz wrote:Neoteny,
I do support evolution depending on definition, but it's apparent to me that there's not universal common descent.
Player,
Died choking on other fish and then managed to avoid being found by scavengers and aerobic decomposers and anaerobic decomposers before fossilizing? Also, each of the layers in Bryce has layers within it? And? How about find me an example of something I ignored in a young Earth Creationism thread?
Natty,
Any need for character attack? I just read replies to my last post and simply get weary of similar arguments back and forth myself.
Same note or whatever from earlier.

Don't you already know the answer to that question, Lionz? If you seek within, shouldn't you be able to find it?Lionz wrote:What would motivate you to try to get me to ask you a question, BBS?
O'Rourke I thought. But I don't really remember. My point has been, though, that you are using these quotes deceptively. You have presented them as critical of evolutionary theory, when, nearly universally, they are critical of how the relevant theories are presented, or rhetorical questions that are answered later, or something similar. By just posting these within the context of a discussion of the veracity of evolutionary theory, it is intellectually dishonest. It is a lie.Lionz wrote:Neoteny,
If I say something that backs up a theory I do not stand by 100%, then I say something that backs up a theory I do not stand by 100%. What's wrong with simply quoting someone and are you getting at something said by Eldredge?
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.

That there's and example of some people that don't know what they're messing with. Matthew 13: 49-51 most likely applies here.notyou2 wrote:Here's proof of god, but it seems he only wants "all white" folks as followers.
http://www.abc3340.com/story/18945750/w ... -this-week
I don't think I'm going overboard. When you misrepresent someone's words it's dishonest. If it's not intentional, then it's because you just don't care. I'm not sure which is worse. If you're not sure what O'Rourke thinks, particularly when you are quoting from a paper where he is literally writing out what he thinks, maybe you shouldn't quote him. Just because an isolated quote agrees with your perspective out of context, doesn't mean you should use it as you please. It would be like me saying the Bible says "There is no God." That statement is technically true, but contextually absurd. And it is unfair to the author, and unfair to your reader, to pretend otherwise.Lionz wrote:Neoteny,
Deceptively? Intellectually dishonest? Lie? Intentionally lying to you all the time? Are you not going a little overboard? I'm not sure what O'Rourke thinks or what you think would be quoting something in context? Is there something you want to add to a quote?
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
How can one stand by something which descends? Am I in an elevator which is moving alongside it?Lionz wrote:BBS,
Do you stand by universal common descent?
Neoteny,
Deceptively? Intellectually dishonest? Lie? Intentionally lying to you all the time? Are you not going a little overboard? I'm not sure what O'Rourke thinks or what you think would be quoting something in context? Is there something you want to add to a quote?