Male Circumcision

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[Symmetry]

If it stood true, why'd you change it?

Probably because there is no priests in Judaism anymore.

Religions change so fast.

Define fast.

Seriously though, I sometimes call Rabbi's, Pastors and whatnot Priests. I tend to think of a Priest being a religious authority. Not in a good or bad sense just a word more than a title.

Meh, he was going for the Catholic church on a different issue from the Orthodox Judaic stuff. Much as I dislike the circumcision stuff, the rabbis weren't pedophiles giving blow jobs to children.

[2dimes]

If it stood true, why'd you change it?

Probably because there is no priests in Judaism anymore.

What about Seth Cohen from TV's "The O.C."?

Not currently but yeah in the future perhaps. Have they broke ground yet?

[kentington]

If it stood true, why'd you change it?

Probably because there is no priests in Judaism anymore.

Religions change so fast.

Define fast.

Seriously though, I sometimes call Rabbi's, Pastors and whatnot Priests. I tend to think of a Priest being a religious authority. Not in a good or bad sense just a word more than a title.

Meh, he was going for the Catholic church on a different issue from the Orthodox Judaic stuff. Much as I dislike the circumcision stuff, the rabbis weren't pedophiles giving blow jobs to children.

Ah, yeah. I see that. Circumcision doesn't bother me, but the other does.

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[2dimes]

So a guy can only get a blowjob while getting circumcised?

[Symmetry]

If it stood true, why'd you change it?

Probably because there is no priests in Judaism anymore.

Religions change so fast.

Define fast.

Seriously though, I sometimes call Rabbi's, Pastors and whatnot Priests. I tend to think of a Priest being a religious authority. Not in a good or bad sense just a word more than a title.

Meh, he was going for the Catholic church on a different issue from the Orthodox Judaic stuff. Much as I dislike the circumcision stuff, the rabbis weren't pedophiles giving blow jobs to children.

metzitzah b'peh, (alt. mezizah), or oral suction,[14][15] where the mohel sucks blood from the circumcision wound on the baby's penis

Placing a penis in your mouth and sucking qualifies as a blowjob. Putting a babies penis in your mouth qualifies as pedophilia.

So you're of the opinion that a certain branch of Judaism is religiously pedophilic? I don't agree to the say the least.

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[Symmetry]

So you're of the opinion that a certain branch of Judaism is religiously pedophilic? I don't agree to the say the least.

Less commonly practiced, and more controversial,

I sure am. There are extremists in every religion, why not Judaism?

You're a pleasant individual who I think is tolerant of all folks and doesn't consider certain branches of Judaism to be inherently paedophilic.

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[2dimes]

I must say calling you names is counter productive but Symm's right. Contact with a penis isn't sexual. There needs to be context and intent.

If contacting it made you "gay" you'd have to get a male doctor that was a homosexual to do any medical procedures. Trust me anything a uralogist is doing is probably not a really good time.

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[patrickaa317]

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Are you implying that you believe they are actually gay pedophilic [Jewish] vampires? There is no reason to suck someone else's blood unless you are a vampire.

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[Symmetry]

I must say calling you names is counter productive but Symm's right. Contact with a penis isn't sexual. There needs to be context and intent.

If contacting it made you "gay" you'd have to get a male doctor that was a homosexual to do any medical procedures. Trust me anything a uralogist is doing is probably not a really good time.

How do you know there isn't intent? How do you know they aren't pedophiles hiding behind a barbaric religious tradition?

Anything of this nature should be assumed wrong unless proven innocent. It's definitely not required to suck a penis during a circumcision. As it turns out, it's causing problems.

I've given lots of reasons why this is wrong, I have yet to see a single argument for it.

Please, explain how you think it's a good thing that old men are sucking on infants genitalia after cutting part of it off.

I apologise for calling you an idiot. As you should know, I don't agree with infant circumcision for non-medical reasons. Male circumcision- go for it if the male is an adult.

It's fine that you object to the practice, and I would largely agree with you, but that doesn't mean that all objections are equal. The pedophile stuff is bunk. Just because you think something is wrong doesn't mean that everything you can possibly accuse is right.

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[Symmetry]

I must say calling you names is counter productive but Symm's right. Contact with a penis isn't sexual. There needs to be context and intent.

If contacting it made you "gay" you'd have to get a male doctor that was a homosexual to do any medical procedures. Trust me anything a uralogist is doing is probably not a really good time.

How do you know there isn't intent? How do you know they aren't pedophiles hiding behind a barbaric religious tradition?

Anything of this nature should be assumed wrong unless proven innocent. It's definitely not required to suck a penis during a circumcision. As it turns out, it's causing problems.

I've given lots of reasons why this is wrong, I have yet to see a single argument for it.

Please, explain how you think it's a good thing that old men are sucking on infants genitalia after cutting part of it off.

I apologise for calling you an idiot. As you should know, I don't agree with infant circumcision for non-medical reasons. Male circumcision- go for it if the male is an adult.

It's fine that you object to the practice, and I would largely agree with you, but that doesn't mean that all objections are equal. The pedophile stuff is bunk. Just because you think something is wrong doesn't mean that everything you can possibly accuse is right.

How do you KNOW the pedophile stuff is bunk? If you state the action doesn't cause you to be a pedophile, then it must be some internal brain chemistry and state of thought? Are you privy to these mens brains?

I see the action, I call it like it is. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. If they don't want to be referred to as pedophiles, stop sucking infants penis's. A real doctor would evaluate the situation, realize that it's causing more harm than good, and stop. But these men continue on their actions. I would assume either they don't know any better, or they enjoy it.

It's a religious ritual, and much as I object to it, I don't think it's pedophilia. Tone yourself down a notch.

[kentington]

Again I don't mind circumcision of males, even infants. I have had it done and no complaints here.

Regarding the sucking of the blood. I think that is the weirdest thing, but I equate it to gynecologists. Some of them like women, but I am sure they aren't getting off on doing their inspections. Maybe some of them are, but I tell you what it takes a special perv to have that happen and hopefully they will get caught.

But if Sym had his way, then circumcision would end and then those who were pedophiles would be caught doing something else and you would both win.

[Symmetry]

Again I don't mind circumcision of males, even infants. I have had it done and no complaints here.

Regarding the sucking of the blood. I think that is the weirdest thing, but I equate it to gynecologists. Some of them like women, but I am sure they aren't getting off on doing their inspections. Maybe some of them are, but I tell you what it takes a special perv to have that happen and hopefully they will get caught.

But if Sym had his way, then circumcision would end and then those who were pedophiles would be caught doing something else and you would both win.

Not at all- I only object to circumcision on infants, male or female, for reasons other than medical necessity. Adults can get circumcised if they want to.

[kentington]

Again I don't mind circumcision of males, even infants. I have had it done and no complaints here.

Regarding the sucking of the blood. I think that is the weirdest thing, but I equate it to gynecologists. Some of them like women, but I am sure they aren't getting off on doing their inspections. Maybe some of them are, but I tell you what it takes a special perv to have that happen and hopefully they will get caught.

But if Sym had his way, then circumcision would end and then those who were pedophiles would be caught doing something else and you would both win.

Not at all- I only object to circumcision on infants, male or female, for reasons other than medical necessity. Adults can get circumcised if they want to.

Yep, sorry. I understood your position on it. I just didn't add all of that. But ending non-adult circumcision would fix his problem.

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If anything, I'd accuse the mohels of being vampires like patrickaa317 brought up. I get the feeling that's probably not true anymore than the pedo accusation.

Not at all- I only object to circumcision on infants, male or female, for reasons other than medical necessity. Adults can get circumcised if they want to.

If one of the several groups that have tried to eliminate the Hebrews throughout their existance was any good at it, they wouldn't exist. Therfore by default they wouldn't continue doing such a rediculas thing just because thousands of years ago God told them to circumsise their male children on the 8th day of their life.

Maybe someone should take another run at them. Then again I believe God will never let it happen.

As for the sucking the blood part I don't know what the point is. Maybe that's the right way to obey the command.

How do you know there isn't intent?

Obviously the concept of a guy touching penises medically even with their mouth without being a homosexual is too difficult for some to grasp. I can't think of anything to write that would help.

Urologist = Deleted slur because rdsrds is cool and asked politely.

Carry on, and I don't think it makes a person homophobic... well ok I do but... I also think urologists are medical professionals that happen to specialise in the male urinary/sexual organs and there's nothing sexual about it, so there's that.

[Symmetry]

Again I don't mind circumcision of males, even infants. I have had it done and no complaints here.

Regarding the sucking of the blood. I think that is the weirdest thing, but I equate it to gynecologists. Some of them like women, but I am sure they aren't getting off on doing their inspections. Maybe some of them are, but I tell you what it takes a special perv to have that happen and hopefully they will get caught.

But if Sym had his way, then circumcision would end and then those who were pedophiles would be caught doing something else and you would both win.

Not at all- I only object to circumcision on infants, male or female, for reasons other than medical necessity. Adults can get circumcised if they want to.

Yep, sorry. I understood your position on it. I just didn't add all of that. But ending non-adult circumcision would fix his problem.

No worries, but just to emphasise my position, I'm okay with circumcisions on infants if it's medically necessary and performed by a qualified surgeon. Other than that, it should be a decision taken in adulthood if you want it done.

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Men who are circumcised are in for some bad news - it puts them at a disadvantage in the bedroom, according to experts.
The researchers also found circumcised men were more likely to report more pain and numbness during arousal than uncircumcised men, which Dr Hoebeke said is likely due to scar tissue.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... itive.html

That said, the methodology of this study seems a little suspect. That said-2, however, I will extend them benefit of the doubt knowing the Daily Mail is not a good source to get summaries of the methodology of scientific studies.

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One would have thought the data would be easiest to collect for greenland.

[crispybits]

It's so cold up there 80% of men have trouble even finding their wang.