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saxitoxin wrote:Your position is more complex than the federal tax code. As soon as I think I understand it, I find another index of cross-references, exceptions and amendments I have to apply.
Timminz wrote:Yo mama is so classless, she could be a Marxist utopia.
Sorry about the link...I watched on Thai tv this morning with my mouth wide open,it's not the first time he's disgraced himself in front of countless millions of viewers worldwide.Someone totally unfamiliar with Fox and O'Reilly in particular might easily think it was a parody..Gillipig wrote:I think he's referring to this video:
I don't get how this guy still get guests to his show. He's the rudest talk show host I've ever seen.
O'Reilly regularly points out he is the top rated show, often more than the other news channels combined. i doubt there is another huge market more profitable than the one he hasBigBallinStalin wrote:Questions:
(1) Does O'Reilly behave like an ass because he supplies what those consumers demand?
(2) Is there anything constraining Fox News and/or O'Reilly from targeting (perhaps) a more profitable market of viewers?
(e.g. the Fox News owners, or the higher-ups, or their budget, or uncertainty and imperfect knowledge)
1) is almost certainly true,I'm coming round to the view that a lot of his anger is feigned and he is playing to an under-educated redneck domestic constituencey which keeps his ratings high.BigBallinStalin wrote:Questions:
(1) Does O'Reilly behave like an ass because he supplies what those consumers demand?
(2) Is there anything constraining Fox News and/or O'Reilly from targeting (perhaps) a more profitable market of viewers?
(e.g. the Fox News owners, or the higher-ups, or their budget, or uncertainty and imperfect knowledge)
O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.greenoaks wrote:O'Reilly regularly points out he is the top rated show, often more than the other news channels combined. i doubt there is another huge market more profitable than the one he hasBigBallinStalin wrote:Questions:
(1) Does O'Reilly behave like an ass because he supplies what those consumers demand?
(2) Is there anything constraining Fox News and/or O'Reilly from targeting (perhaps) a more profitable market of viewers?
(e.g. the Fox News owners, or the higher-ups, or their budget, or uncertainty and imperfect knowledge)
(1) I'm having trouble with accepting that people are that stupid susceptible to cognitive bias, but that could be case. I remember Al-Jazeera closing down Riz Khan, who hosted intellectual debates--in a TV news format--ranging from 15-30 minutes, but then Riz Khan either got closed down or he left, so maybe this confirms that appealing to bias is more profitable for TV news.chang50 wrote:1) is almost certainly true,I'm coming round to the view that a lot of his anger is feigned and he is playing to an under-educated redneck domestic constituencey which keeps his ratings high.BigBallinStalin wrote:Questions:
(1) Does O'Reilly behave like an ass because he supplies what those consumers demand?
(2) Is there anything constraining Fox News and/or O'Reilly from targeting (perhaps) a more profitable market of viewers?
(e.g. the Fox News owners, or the higher-ups, or their budget, or uncertainty and imperfect knowledge)
2)Rupert Murdoch owns FNC..go figure
To be fair fox noise has less shame than other news outlets when pushing their far right agenda. They are by far the worst, followed by msnbc.BigBallinStalin wrote:Therefore, the O'Reilly show is a piece of crap, and Fox News in general sucks. The same goes for the other major TV news outlets.
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A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
In actuality he didn't really have "guests" per se, but fellow co-workers. Alan Colmes works for Fox and Bill O'Reilly is close friends with him. This show was more like WWF wrestling than an actual debate. Bill knows that his viewer base is angry, white, uneducated males...he is just targeting that market for his show.Gillipig wrote:I think he's referring to this video:
I don't get how this guy still get guests to his show. He's the rudest talk show host I've ever seen.
Army of GOD wrote:I joined this game because it's so similar to Call of Duty.
That makes him different from other pundits? Are you and chang coming with the vitriol because these two dudes are successful at it?oVo wrote:A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
I suppose O'Really gets away just about anything, which has included sexual harassment
because he has the cash to cover it... and brings in big bucks for his network.
He's also good at what he does; walking that fine line, teetering at the brink
of going too far without becoming a liability and just enough controversy to
keep people tuning in... regardless of facts. It helps that he is just an opinion
spewer and as such doesn't have to be honest or truthful. His agenda is simple
just like Limbaugh, cash in.
O'Reilly wouldn't be tolerated on British tv as a serious news pundit,one outburst like that would finish him.thegreekdog wrote:That makes him different from other pundits? Are you and chang coming with the vitriol because these two dudes are successful at it?oVo wrote:A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
I suppose O'Really gets away just about anything, which has included sexual harassment
because he has the cash to cover it... and brings in big bucks for his network.
He's also good at what he does; walking that fine line, teetering at the brink
of going too far without becoming a liability and just enough controversy to
keep people tuning in... regardless of facts. It helps that he is just an opinion
spewer and as such doesn't have to be honest or truthful. His agenda is simple
just like Limbaugh, cash in.
Assuming that reaction would be true, I have trouble separating the fundamental/proximate causes which explain that reaction...chang50 wrote:O'Reilly wouldn't be tolerated on British tv as a serious news pundit,one outburst like that would finish him.thegreekdog wrote:That makes him different from other pundits? Are you and chang coming with the vitriol because these two dudes are successful at it?oVo wrote:A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
I suppose O'Really gets away just about anything, which has included sexual harassment
because he has the cash to cover it... and brings in big bucks for his network.
He's also good at what he does; walking that fine line, teetering at the brink
of going too far without becoming a liability and just enough controversy to
keep people tuning in... regardless of facts. It helps that he is just an opinion
spewer and as such doesn't have to be honest or truthful. His agenda is simple
just like Limbaugh, cash in.
I did a quick Google Search and found this: http://www.thestreet.com/story/11798889 ... fered.htmlNight Strike wrote:Did anyone ever actually answer his question though? What programs has Obama supported cutting?
That's not really what I'm asking. You watch O'Reilly more than I do apparently (I don't watch his show at all), so you could speak to whether he would be tolerated on British television better than me. My point is that there are rude blowhards all over television (only in the U.S. apparently) but you seem to have a problem with O'Reilly. Is that because he is the most successful TV blowhard? Is Limbaugh a focus because he's the most successful radio blowhard?chang50 wrote:O'Reilly wouldn't be tolerated on British tv as a serious news pundit,one outburst like that would finish him.thegreekdog wrote:That makes him different from other pundits? Are you and chang coming with the vitriol because these two dudes are successful at it?oVo wrote:A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
I suppose O'Really gets away just about anything, which has included sexual harassment
because he has the cash to cover it... and brings in big bucks for his network.
He's also good at what he does; walking that fine line, teetering at the brink
of going too far without becoming a liability and just enough controversy to
keep people tuning in... regardless of facts. It helps that he is just an opinion
spewer and as such doesn't have to be honest or truthful. His agenda is simple
just like Limbaugh, cash in.
Sean Hannity,Glenn Beck,Ann Coulter,Michelle Malkin and others regularly on FNC are crazies by any standard but rarely as just plain rude and bullying as O'Reilly has been on several occasions,a quick youtube search provides a long list of examples of how he deals with people who have the temerity to disagree with him.thegreekdog wrote:That's not really what I'm asking. You watch O'Reilly more than I do apparently (I don't watch his show at all), so you could speak to whether he would be tolerated on British television better than me. My point is that there are rude blowhards all over television (only in the U.S. apparently) but you seem to have a problem with O'Reilly. Is that because he is the most successful TV blowhard? Is Limbaugh a focus because he's the most successful radio blowhard?chang50 wrote:O'Reilly wouldn't be tolerated on British tv as a serious news pundit,one outburst like that would finish him.thegreekdog wrote:That makes him different from other pundits? Are you and chang coming with the vitriol because these two dudes are successful at it?oVo wrote:A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
I suppose O'Really gets away just about anything, which has included sexual harassment
because he has the cash to cover it... and brings in big bucks for his network.
He's also good at what he does; walking that fine line, teetering at the brink
of going too far without becoming a liability and just enough controversy to
keep people tuning in... regardless of facts. It helps that he is just an opinion
spewer and as such doesn't have to be honest or truthful. His agenda is simple
just like Limbaugh, cash in.
I just went to that website and summed up all the savings listed there and it comes to $1.137 billion. On a 2012 deficit of $1,100 billion. That's a 0.1% savings. Enough said.AndyDufresne wrote:I did a quick Google Search and found this: http://www.thestreet.com/story/11798889 ... fered.htmlNight Strike wrote:Did anyone ever actually answer his question though? What programs has Obama supported cutting?
There is probably a better list somewhere, maybe even on whithouse.gov.
--Andy


Can you really blame us? We've been in more than a few wars over the years lol.BigBallinStalin wrote:Assuming that reaction would be true, I have trouble separating the fundamental/proximate causes which explain that reaction...chang50 wrote:O'Reilly wouldn't be tolerated on British tv as a serious news pundit,one outburst like that would finish him.thegreekdog wrote:That makes him different from other pundits? Are you and chang coming with the vitriol because these two dudes are successful at it?oVo wrote:A trait he shares with Rush Limbaugh, while preaching to the choir anything goes.BigBallinStalin wrote:O'Reilly isn't known to speak the truth either.
I suppose O'Really gets away just about anything, which has included sexual harassment
because he has the cash to cover it... and brings in big bucks for his network.
He's also good at what he does; walking that fine line, teetering at the brink
of going too far without becoming a liability and just enough controversy to
keep people tuning in... regardless of facts. It helps that he is just an opinion
spewer and as such doesn't have to be honest or truthful. His agenda is simple
just like Limbaugh, cash in.
Whenever I'm in Europe, TV news is of higher quality. Even CNN had news which was more international--with topics involving higher stakes than CNN-US. I remember them covering the Israel excursion into Lebanon (2008?), returning to the US where CNN-US was covering some mild story about some guy who killed his wife. For real?!
Is this a reflection of consumer preferences which dislike criticism against any US/Israeli war?
Are Europeans in general more sensitive to wars?
