alaskanassassin wrote:I'd like to play. Though my score isn't so hot, at least I have till the 30th. So there is no consideration given to peoples 1 v 1 scores or win ratio? Because if this is to find the best 1 v 1 champ shouldn't that be taken into account. Someone may have 3200 and a much higher score than me and they get all that from speed games or winning 8 player games, but that has nothing to do with 1 v 1. Just a question?
This is a good point. You could easily map rank players on the 30th to figure out their 1 v 1 win ratio.
Well, it's just a tiebreaker. The problem with ratio is they could be lying as well. What if they play a bunch of games against bad players? What if I map rank and it includes bot games as well, which can definitely increase the winning precentage pretty easily?
Essentially, I am open to all tiebreakers and if something is more fair than something else, I don't necessarily have a problem using something different than points, but I'm not really sure that we have anything more fair than simply overall points.
This is my issue as well. From the number of people who have signed up I won't be grtting in to this based on rank and didn't hear about this tourny until the qualifiers were full. It is disappointing for someone who has won and organized many 1-1 tournaments to not be able to play. Not sure of any other methods for entry just wish I could play.
gochisox2004 wrote:in please. do we get a confirmation that we're in?
Yes. I'll let everyone know.
phantomzero wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
Jippd wrote:
alaskanassassin wrote:I'd like to play. Though my score isn't so hot, at least I have till the 30th. So there is no consideration given to peoples 1 v 1 scores or win ratio? Because if this is to find the best 1 v 1 champ shouldn't that be taken into account. Someone may have 3200 and a much higher score than me and they get all that from speed games or winning 8 player games, but that has nothing to do with 1 v 1. Just a question?
This is a good point. You could easily map rank players on the 30th to figure out their 1 v 1 win ratio.
Well, it's just a tiebreaker. The problem with ratio is they could be lying as well. What if they play a bunch of games against bad players? What if I map rank and it includes bot games as well, which can definitely increase the winning precentage pretty easily?
Essentially, I am open to all tiebreakers and if something is more fair than something else, I don't necessarily have a problem using something different than points, but I'm not really sure that we have anything more fair than simply overall points.
This is my issue as well. From the number of people who have signed up I won't be grtting in to this based on rank and didn't hear about this tourny until the qualifiers were full. It is disappointing for someone who has won and organized many 1-1 tournaments to not be able to play. Not sure of any other methods for entry just wish I could play.
I don't think organizing (you've organized zero 1v1 tournaments) should have anything to do it at all. Maybe winning (you've won two 1v1 tournaments) could. I'm not sure that you'd qualify under a criteria that we'd set for tournament wins though. I'll think about that and talk with bigWham.
I agree that with the way the system is set up many top 1 v 1 players may not qualify. Players that play mainly 1 v 1 tourneys in general have a lot lower score than they are capable of. Just finished playing a low ranked player in a best of 9 series, I won 7 and lost 2 yet was destroyed on points (58 for each loss and 6 points gained for each win). Just last week I was over 3000. Not sure where my score will be on the 30th but generally am between 2000 and 2500. I have 71 1 v1 tourney wins. Don't know if this will be enough to gain entry. Yet many players never play 1 v 1 tournaments and are rated 3000 or higher. These players will gain automatic entry and a high initial seed.
If this was an official championship shouldn't everyone have access to it. I know there are qualifiers available but they were just thrown at us last minute.
EDIT: How about to enter this tourney you must have won at least 1v1 tourney.
After speaking with bigWham, we've decided to amend the entry process only slightly to allow those players who have won at least five 1v1 tournaments into this automatically. However, if a lot of them sign up, we will only take the top 24 1v1 tournament winners from that group. After that, score will be the tiebreaker.
chapcrap wrote:After speaking with bigWham, we've decided to amend the entry process only slightly to allow those players who have won at least five 1v1 tournaments into this automatically. However, if a lot of them sign up, we will only take the top 24 1v1 tournament winners from that group. After that, score will be the tiebreaker.
I like the adjustment. People now have 3 ways to get in, qualifier, score, or 1 v 1 tourney wins.
Dice stats are irrelevant. If I roll the same amount of 6's as everyone else, but my opponents role 6's at the same time, that's what matters, what's rolled opposite my dice. How about how many total guys I've won and lost while attacking?
chapcrap wrote:After speaking with bigWham, we've decided to amend the entry process only slightly to allow those players who have won at least five 1v1 tournaments into this automatically. However, if a lot of them sign up, we will only take the top 24 1v1 tournament winners from that group. After that, score will be the tiebreaker.
So what will you do for a player like me who might qualify based on overall score and I have also won at least 5 1 v 1 tournaments. How will you decide my entry method? Just wondering from a logistical standpoint, I'm hoping I will get in one way or another.
Possible solution is to accept entries in this order:
Take those that win from the satellites>Take the top score based entrants>take the remaining applicants that didn't qualify for score and then take the top 24 that have won at least 5 1 v 1 tournaments
chapcrap wrote:After speaking with bigWham, we've decided to amend the entry process only slightly to allow those players who have won at least five 1v1 tournaments into this automatically. However, if a lot of them sign up, we will only take the top 24 1v1 tournament winners from that group. After that, score will be the tiebreaker.
So what will you do for a player like me who might qualify based on overall score and I have also won at least 5 1 v 1 tournaments. How will you decide my entry method? Just wondering from a logistical standpoint, I'm hoping I will get in one way or another.
Possible solution is to accept entries in this order:
Take those that win from the satellites>Take the top score based entrants>take the remaining applicants that didn't qualify for score and then take the top 24 that have won at least 5 1 v 1 tournaments
I'll take the qualifiers first for sure. I had been planning on taking the tournament winners next and then go off of score. I'm not really sure how many of the tournament winners we'll get in here. We've had about 120 people eligible for that. Why do you propose to do score first?