Doodle Earth [Quenched]

[Evil DIMwit]

I want to believe in Draft 20:









http://www.freewebs.com/dimagic/DoodleEarthXML.txt

Issues addressed:
- ) Reworked XML
- ) Small version crayons
- ) Final Forge

Issues not addressed:
- ) Army minimum
- ) Any other brilliant ideas

[pepperonibread]

I think its a little confusing having a country and continent called Europe.

I agree call the territory europe, France or Spain

It is a little confusing, but the thing is, no one can think of anything better. Can't wait to play this.

[edbeard]

I think its a little confusing having a country and continent called Europe.

I agree call the territory europe, France or Spain

It is a little confusing, but the thing is, no one can think of anything better.

You're wrong, people have thought of better names, France is better. I don't see a reason to call it Europe (and I haven't seen anyone give a valid reason why it should be called Europe), it only serves to confuse.

Eastern Europe is already called Germany, so why not call Western Europe by a country like France or Spain? I'm sure someone will say "it's been voted on and that's that" Just my opinion, your choice whether to ignore it.

[pepperonibread]

I think its a little confusing having a country and continent called Europe.

I agree call the territory europe, France or Spain

It is a little confusing, but the thing is, no one can think of anything better.

You're wrong, people have thought of better names, France is better. I don't see a reason to call it Europe (and I haven't seen anyone give a valid reason why it should be called Europe), it only serves to confuse.

Eastern Europe is already called Germany, so why not call Western Europe by a country like France or Spain? I'm sure someone will say "it's been voted on and that's that" Just my opinion, your choice whether to ignore it.

Yeah, you're right, France is probably best.

[deadly.sporks]

Congratulations, I'm excited to play on this map!

[Wisse]

gratz with your final forge

[The1exile]

Eastern Europe is already called Germany, so why not call Western Europe by a country like France or Spain? I'm sure someone will say "it's been voted on and that's that" Just my opinion, your choice whether to ignore it.

People already voted the names were OK.

Also Germany is out of place, which is part of the appeal.

Great work DIM!

[vtmarik]

Woot on the Final Forge...

It's about freakin' time.

[Kaplowitz]

I think its a little confusing having a country and continent called Europe.

I agree call the territory europe, France or Spain

It is a little confusing, but the thing is, no one can think of anything better.

You're wrong, people have thought of better names, France is better. I don't see a reason to call it Europe (and I haven't seen anyone give a valid reason why it should be called Europe), it only serves to confuse.

Eastern Europe is already called Germany, so why not call Western Europe by a country like France or Spain? I'm sure someone will say "it's been voted on and that's that" Just my opinion, your choice whether to ignore it.

Yeah, you're right, France is probably best.

Actually it is fixed because in the xml, the continent is called "all of Europe", and the other continents have "all of" also.

[Evil DIMwit]

I think its a little confusing having a country and continent called Europe.

I agree call the territory europe, France or Spain

It is a little confusing, but the thing is, no one can think of anything better.

You're wrong, people have thought of better names, France is better. I don't see a reason to call it Europe (and I haven't seen anyone give a valid reason why it should be called Europe), it only serves to confuse.

Eastern Europe is already called Germany, so why not call Western Europe by a country like France or Spain? I'm sure someone will say "it's been voted on and that's that" Just my opinion, your choice whether to ignore it.

Yeah, you're right, France is probably best.

Actually it is fixed because in the xml, the continent is called "all of Europe", and the other continents have "all of" also.

I was wondering if and when someone would notice that. Yeah, I thought it might clear up a bit of the confusion, and add some style. As for France, it doesn't really strike me as silly enough; also, I think it draws some of the variety out of the continent by making it exclusively comprised of actual countries, which no other continent is.

[DiM]

congrats on the forge

[sam_levi_11]

i was determined to this map- but the sentance from drawer-lol and the style of it make me like this alot

[sam_levi_11]

you could split up western europe into france and iberia- i think that would be a big europe improvement

[Evil DIMwit]

you could split up western europe into france and iberia- i think that would be a big europe improvement

Not really. For one, it would just add one more neutral territory to every possible number of players -- prime numbers are like that -- and it would throw off the bonus. Than again, if you could give me a good reason why it would improve Europe, I'll consider it.

[sam_levi_11]

i think it would add a new dimension to europe, which at the moment is just a bit bland and boring

[unriggable]

I think you should either give all countries circles or give no countries circles.

[Evil DIMwit]

I did give no countries circles.

[The Random One]

Actually it is fixed because in the xml, the continent is called "all of Europe", and the other continents have "all of" also.

I was wondering if and when someone would notice that. Yeah, I thought it might clear up a bit of the confusion, and add some style. As for France, it doesn't really strike me as silly enough; also, I think it draws some of the variety out of the continent by making it exclusively comprised of actual countries, which no other continent is.

That was a perfect way to solve the whole Europe controversy. Congratulations!

Also, congrats on the final forge. I'm looking forward to this one, looks very fun.

[ClessAlvein]

I don't think this has been mentioned before...

Say there are 6 players. Each player cannot *possibly* have 5 cards each because the current card system (I think) excludes the same country card from being in the hands of 2 players simultaneously. 5x6=30 cards, and there are far less than 30 countries on the map. This would invariably produce some kind of error in the code.

[sam_levi_11]

i thought this as well, but i presumed they wouldnt miss sumin so stupid

[Evil DIMwit]

That was actually one of the first issues inquired about. It turns out that the system in fact does not exclude the same country from being held twice, or even from having different colors each time.

[MR. Nate]

The only solutions that come immediately to mind is
1) Make the code allow the same countries in different hands.
2) Make the code so that if there's no more cards, you're out of luck.
3) Add 12 territories (which would ruin the map)
4) Limit the number of people who can play to 4 (which reduces the likelihood of the code going haywire)

[Evil DIMwit]

Well, it's a good thing #1 is already implemented, then.

[yeti_c]

Yeah this issue had to be fixed for the Battle Royale's to work!!

C.

[dolemite]

How many times does he have to say it will work before people will believe him?

Anyways, mad props to the mods of this forum for final forging this map. I respect that even though they had reservations about it, they still followed the community consensus and went forward with it- that is true leadership.

Are there any of the new XML changes which could be used on this map to help make the game last a couple turns or longer, or make it so that someone doesn't get eliminated right away? I can't think of anything but maybe someone more creative than me could.