After Long Await, Periodic Madness- v16 p 13[i][vacation]

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:41 am

Periodic Madness

Version 15

Updates:
- Changed borders to white
- Narrowed the external black borders
- Changed colors around to help with red-green colorblindness

Small (571x424)

Discussion Points:
- Could we get a bonus discussion going? I know that with exception of the Transitions they SEEM very high. Should we go with partial-hold bonuses a la Berlin 1961? Lower them in general? Keep them as is?
- Are the colors contrasted enough for the colorblind?
- Are explanations of unique features clear?
- Are the Lanthanides and Actinides TOO isolated from the rest of the map? If so, any way we could fix that?

1. 118 territories
2. 9 "continents3. Allowing Bonding
Hydrogen+1
Alkali Metals +3
Alkaline Earth Metals+3
Semiconductors+2
Organics+2
Other Metals+1,
Halogens+3
Noble Gases+3
Transition Metals,+1 per 3 in row +11 per row
Lanthanides,+1 per 3 in row +7 for all
Actinides +2 per 4 in row +9 for all

+1 for every adjacent pair of Cations/anions

General Rules

Transition Metals can attack all eight surrounding elements

Regular elements can attack only the four directly above below and to either side.

Radioactive elements have been added to have a -1 radioactive decay per turn

Hydrogen will now be able to attack the elements with the lowercase delta symbol.

Object of the game, to become master of the elements

##TaCktiX** is my partner in this map. Any questions can be directed to either of us.

Tell me what you think.

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:34 am

Please scroll down the page to see a recent thread already made with partway this map idea.

Also, just so you know: generally, a new thread is made by someone intending to make and complete a map; ideas that you want to propose and discuss, so that someone else might like it and make a map out of it, go in the pinned thread at the top of this forum.

I hope I didn't come across as mean, since I'm relatively new here myself, and know that you can't be expected to know something that you don't know. Just informing you, so that you do. (know)

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:39 am

it was being doen somewhere at sometime...keep posting buddy

InkL0sed · Post by **InkL0sed** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:03 pm

This idea used to be in Coleman's "stop fucking suggesting this idea without a draft already" thread. :lol:

I miss that thread. And Coleman.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:21 pm

InkL0sed wrote:I miss that thread. And Coleman.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, we all miss coleman

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:29 am

Due to the posts, i have decided to attempt to create a preliminary map, that should be up on the thread in a few days, to those i offended by not having one i am sorry, and i hope my attempt at one helps

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:18 am

gimil wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:I miss that thread. And Coleman.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, we all miss coleman

oh.... i didnt know he was gon 8-[

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:10 am

Hey here it is, my Periodic Madness prelim map. hope you enjoy

For those of you who can't read the text, it says

All nonmetals including Hydrogen and Semiconductors can attack any element directly above, below or to either side of them.

Ionic Bonds
Elements with opposite Cations/Anions are ionically bonded. These bonds allow for attacks and fortification to occur between them.

Metallic bonds
All metals have special bonds that allow them to attack and fortify all surrounding metals

salohcin123 · Post by **salohcin123** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:49 pm

I[color=green] think that it is a pretty cool idea. :lol:

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Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:06 pm

This is probably the best Element map I've seen, gameplay-wise. The graphics still need a lot of work, and the text is almost completely unreadable, but the playing rules make a lot of sense. I'd play this map (once cleaned up a lot).

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:10 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:This is probably the best Element map I've seen, gameplay-wise. The graphics still need a lot of work, and the text is almost completely unreadable, but the playing rules make a lot of sense. I'd play this map (once cleaned up a lot).

Thank you, science is one of my passions so i gave the rules alot of thought. and sorry about the text, i couldn't find a color that showed up well. i'll try to fix that

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:26 pm

shadowsteel9 wrote:
Ditocoaf wrote:This is probably the best Element map I've seen, gameplay-wise. The graphics still need a lot of work, and the text is almost completely unreadable, but the playing rules make a lot of sense. I'd play this map (once cleaned up a lot).

Thank you, science is one of my passions so i gave the rules alot of thought. and sorry about the text, i couldn't find a color that showed up well. i'll try to fix that

I think the problem isn't the color, its the fact that the background is so messy and grainy.

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:35 am

i'll keep workin on that, ne suggestions on background, i was thinkin all black but i wasn't sure if that would make it booring

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:59 am

Ok, i've reworked it, and here's draft 2 of the many more to come

Changes include, better colors, a less grainy background, and hopefully clearer text.

Keep sending suggestions, this map has been abandoned 2 many times let's try to get this one up and running.

Your feedback is very important

whitestazn88 · Post by **whitestazn88** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:36 am

make the background a solid color, it will make the words easier to read

i don't like the way the title looks either, its real sloppy.

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:58 pm

noted

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:33 am

How's that.

sry but there's a image restriction now, so it's smaller

Keep the feedback coming, and any graphic artists willing to help make this a success pm me

TaCktiX · Post by **TaCktiX** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:45 am

Saying Attack/Fortify is redundant. Just say "borders." WHAT is a Metal is not very well-defined, and since the Alkali Metals and Alkaline Earth Metals are heavily packed together, I'd say switching it just to Transition Metals. Also unclear is the borders with Actinium and Lanthanum. Are Hafnium and Rutherfordium bordering Lutetium and Lawrencium (as I think they should)? Or are Lutetium and Lawrencium bordering Actinium and Lanthanum as well? Definitely clear that up.

I like you bringing Ionic Bonds in as a bonus, very creative.

whitestazn88 · Post by **whitestazn88** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:48 am

shadowsteel9 wrote:
How's that.

sry but there's a image restriction now, so it's smaller

Keep the feedback coming, and any graphic artists willing to help make this a success pm me

I like this. The colors on the actual table are pretty sweet too.
maybe change the font. it looks like it was done in mspaint or something... like its readable right now, but with the forum and server upgrade and all, i think we can afford to jazz it up a bit

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:56 am

TaCktiX wrote:Saying Attack/Fortify is redundant. Just say "borders." WHAT is a Metal is not very well-defined, and since the Alkali Metals and Alkaline Earth Metals are heavily packed together, I'd say switching it just to Transition Metals. Also unclear is the borders with Actinium and Lanthanum. Are Hafnium and Rutherfordium bordering Lutetium and Lawrencium (as I think they should)? Or are Lutetium and Lawrencium bordering Actinium and Lanthanum as well? Definitely clear that up.

I like you bringing Ionic Bonds in as a bonus, very creative.

Yes Hafnium and Rutherfordium are bordering Actinium and Lanthanum, ne ideas as to how i could make that clearer.

Dealing with the metallic bonds, i will consider giving it just to transition metals, (although in real life they exist between all metals), but if that would improve gameplay i think it's definitely doable

TaCktiX · Post by **TaCktiX** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:09 am

I think the borders I wanted cleared up need to be restated.
(Preferred) OR (Not Preferred):
Lutetium --> Hafnium OR Lutetium --> Actinium
Lawrencium --> Rutherfordium OR Lawrencium --> Lanthanum

And for how to make that apparent, narrow up the pink lines a bit and have the two going down, then two going from Lu/Lr up and around to Hf/Rf.

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:12 am

TaCktiX wrote:I think the borders I wanted cleared up need to be restated.
(Preferred) OR (Not Preferred):
Lutetium --> Hafnium OR Lutetium --> Actinium
Lawrencium --> Rutherfordium OR Lawrencium --> Lanthanum

And for how to make that apparent, narrow up the pink lines a bit and have the two going down, then two going from Lu/Lr up and around to Hf/Rf.

Lawrencium to lanthanum
Lutetium to Actinium

shadowsteel9 · Post by **shadowsteel9** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:47 pm

here is draft 4, keep the comments commin

Changes-
Clarified boarders
New font
Changed metallic bonding to only include transition metals

TaCktiX · Post by **TaCktiX** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:55 pm

The new font doesn't work on the smaller text. Something simpler maybe?

And since Lu/Lr connect to La/Ac, could you put a little stub of the pink line pointing toward La/Ac? The way it is right now it could be interpreted either way.

whitestazn88 · Post by **whitestazn88** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:24 pm

so there are no bonuses now?