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Shivas
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First roll

Post by Shivas »

I know discussion of the dice has been around forever. I've read the posts about streaks, odds with various numbered troops v various numbered troops, and the brazillion to one chances of winning/losing. This has been hashed over again and again.

But .... since success and failure in this game is so extremely dependent on the rolls (exclude the skill part for now) I have a query that my non-mathematical brain can't cipher.

In my opinion, the outcome of the first roll of an attack really sets the tone of the move. Especially early in the game where you are just trying to grab just one territory for a card or position. You know those 6v3 attacks. Actually it breaks down to a three die v two die as most attacks really are. At least that's how I look at it.

What seems like too many times (although probably not) I lose two on the first roll. Now its 4v3. Kills me. Really takes my meager optimism to grab a card and turns it into the anguish of taking another chance and maybe losing again thus making my position even weaker than before I started.

So my question is to all you math/odds whizzes ... what are the odds in a 3 v 2 for the various results? I gotta have some feeling of success of failure.
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Bones2484
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Re: First roll

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The real trick?

Don't attack 6v3. Like you said, that gives you two rolls if things go bad. Spread out and use three 4v3s. That way you get at least 3 attacks (if not more if you are clever about it).

Obviously there are times where the 4v3 strat works wonders (especially no spoils) and times when you need to use 6v3 (breaking a bonus). The more you play, the more you'll figure out what works best in each situation.





Oh, and try to never attack 3v2. The odds are not on your side. Something like 22% you win, 33% they win, 45% tie.
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maniacmath17
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Re: First roll

Post by maniacmath17 »

http://gamesbyemail.com/Games/Gambit/BattleOdds
Everyone on CC should know that site, gives you the odds of winning on any attack.

As for the various results with 3 v 2:

Kill 2 lose 0= 37%
Kill 1 lose 1= 34%
Kill 0 lose 2= 29%

Of course these are based on the assumption that the dice are random.
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